Chrysler, Ford Recalling SUVs, Vans

[tenderloin]

The government says Chrysler is recalling about 22,000 sport utility vehicles and trucks to fix brake tubes that could lead to the loss of brake fluid.

Ford Motor Co., meanwhile, is recalling more than 30,000 2010 Transit Connect vans to replace pushpins holding the liners above the driver's head. The company says government testing found it failed to meet federal standards protecting the head.

Chrysler says its recall affects certain 2010 Dodge Nitro, Dodge Ram, Jeep Liberty and Jeep Wranglers that could have defective brake tubes. The problem could lead to the loss of brake fluid, making it difficult to brake and posing the threat of a crash.

Ford's recall is expected to begin in July. Chrysler says owners should be notified in August.

 

[Scienceman]

Gald there doing something about it.

 

[brianl703]

So the headliner falls down?

 

[Scienceman]

almost seem sorta funny.

 

[brianl703]

It was an issue in older cars..not really the headliner board, but the fabric cover. A co-worker had one and he used lots of push-pins to hold it up.

 

[Johnny]

Well, if the brakes work but the headliner falls down you can't see what your breaking for. End results are the same.

 

[StevieC]

I can't believe this thread has been up this long and no-one is bashing the Domestic automakers yet.

Not calling them, but it's amazing with some of the folk on here.

 

[ekpolk]

Good for both companies. It's encouraging to see ANY car maker doing what they should do when a problem surfaces. It may (no, make that will) cost them some money off the bottom line, but in the long run, everyone will benefit, the owners, those sharing the road with the owners, and the companies themselves whose reputations will be just that much better in the long run.

EDIT: why even our sometimes maligned Tenderloin benefits too by showing that he's more even-handed than I previously gave him credit for being. You know what I mean...

 

[ekpolk]

Originally Posted By: Johnny
Well, if the brakes work but the headliner falls down you can't see what your breaking for. End results are the same.


Implying the next logical, more frightening observation: for half the drivers out there on our roads, irrespective of what make they're driving, draping a headliner over their faces could do little to make their driving worse than it already is. OT I know, but I just had to say it.

 

[Herz]

Originally Posted By: ekpolk
Originally Posted By: Johnny
Well, if the brakes work but the headliner falls down you can't see what your breaking for. End results are the same.


Implying the next logical, more frightening observation: for half the drivers out there on our roads, irrespective of what make they're driving, draping a headliner over their faces could do little to make their driving worse than it already is. OT I know, but I just had to say it.


Most of todays drivers are prepared for the headliner to fall infront of them due to hours of texting practice.

 

[cousincletus]

I wonder if the brake tubing is coming from Mexico.

 

[Nick R]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
I can't believe this thread has been up this long and no-one is bashing the Domestic automakers yet.

Not calling them, but it's amazing with some of the folk on here.

Not to start anything, but there is comparatively little domestic bashing anymore. There is a ton of toyota bashing though.

 

[StevieC]

Sad that there is a double standard...

 

[demarpaint]

The amount effects ~52,000 vehicles from two companies. In the scope of things it is quite small. I didn't see the mention of a cover up.......Yet.........

 

[grampi]

This can't be. I thought Toyota was the only automaker that has recalls....

 

[ekpolk]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
The amount effects ~52,000 vehicles from two companies. In the scope of things it is quite small.

Which brings up a good point that while one certainly can look at such things from a broader "statistical" perspective, if it's your vehicle that has a bad brake line, it would hardly seem to matter whether it's a big or small recall.

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I didn't see the mention of a cover up.......Yet.........

I suspect, as to all car makers, the inherent nature of the process lends itself to creating the appearance of coverup or delay, where there may not really any bad intent present. Word of "Problem X" undoubtedly starts trickling into management, most likely through the process of accounting for repairs made at dealerships. A pattern begins to emerge. Then they have to ask questions such as how widespread is the problem, what is the severity/nature of risk, and so forth. After analysis, which reasonably will take time (in most cases), then the car maker can make an informed, valid decision about whether to deal with the issue via recall, TSB, etc., or some appropriate combination of steps. Think about it, how often can anyone expect that some drastic, wide-spread problem is just going to leap out from nowhere, having gone totally unnoticed during design and testing, and be so bad that an instant line-wide recall is justified?

 

[CROWNVIC4LIFE]

It seems the bulk of the people posting on this topic will not be happy until there is a war here on this subject.

I am even more baffled by the posters this is all coming from.

 

[opus1]

Originally Posted By: grampi
This can't be. I thought Toyota was the only automaker that has recalls....
No, but they seem to be the only automaker with agents on this board who get their knickers in a twist if you dare mention that Toyota's are mechanical devices made by mere mortals and subject to the same issues as any other maker.....