Chinese Robots

I wonder how those robots fare against an EMP?
I spoke to an EE once, he said that everything is protected from EMPs down to the chip level somehow.

I am sure with enough power or focus anything can be disrupted. This is a main focus not due to drone swarms so maybe some kind of powerful microwave beam for disabling swarms or lasers for pinpoint accuracy. ISK, way beyond my understanding but I am sure we are working on counter measures.
 
Is this even real or another AI propeganda campaign?
Real, and pretty impressive!

I think the time is coming fast, where the average folks in all countries better decide that nations need to get along, and get the advancements in robotics and AI working for the common good.
I'm sure the vast majority of folks everywhere want the same basic things, so wasting time/money/resources fighting each other makes no sense, especially against mass produced autonomous robotic weapon systems. That is not something humans will be very good at...
 
Two legged piles of chinese junk. They'll probably never release them and never intended to do anything with these beyond using them as a big scam to scam investors out of their money and run away with it.
Don't know about their robots-but if you are referring to other things coming out of China you are sadly mistaken-or worse. When Canada starts importing their automobiles-you will see they are not junk.
 
What makes you think they're not junk? Have you seen their long term ownership reports or are you basing your view on influencer reviews?

I have seen many on the roads in South America-with roads that are not any here as good as we have here. They get them in many South American countries due to "favored nation status". I have also inspected new Chinese cars for "fit and finish"-and interior materials. They are very, very good. Long term ownership -I don't know how many miles the vehicles had on them that I saw. I will say I did not see any broken down on the side of the road.

BTW-the Chinese build highways that are state of the art-not only in their own country-but many places elsewhere.

So-my anecdotal evidence/view is probably based a little more experience than yours.
But we will see when they actually hit the Canadian market now. That's a game changer-make no mistake about it.
 
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I have seen many on the roads in South America-with roads that are not any here as good as we have here. They get them in many South American countries due to "favored nation status". I have also inspected new Chinese cars for "fit and finish"-and interior materials. They are very, very good. Long term ownership -I don't know how many miles the vehicles had on them that I saw. I will say I didn't not see one broken down on the side of the road.

BTW-the Chinese build highways that are state of the art-not only in their own country-but many places elsewhere.

So-my anecdotal evidence/view is probably based a little more experience than yours.
But we will see when they actually hit the Canadian market now. That's a game changer-make no mistake about it.

So how many did you see broken down on the side of the road?
 
Three hours is plenty of time for a combat operation. A truck drives up loaded with robots, fully charged. The robots are programmed with mission parameters and then set loose. Mass alone will be intimidating - when they don't stop until the objective is met, then the only thing limiting them becomes the battery life. Think about what the Ukrainians did with their drone attacks deep inside Russia.

Three hours in full on combat seems like a long time to me - as my dad told me about his experiences in Korea. Most of the unit battles were over in less than two hours, with hundreds dead on the attacking side. And to the attackers, the death and destruction did not seem to matter to them at all.

The whistles calling the attack, the waves and waves of attackers until his troops ran out of ammo. Horrific experience for him - his hands shook as he told me this story. BTW, I have left out a lot of horrific detail, but suffice it to say that three hours of "runtime" is more than enough in most situations.
 
So how many did you see broken down on the side of the road?
Things for pointing out my grammatical error. Fixed it in the original post.

"I will say I did not see any broken down on the side of the road."
 
World peace ain't happening.
We should have Davos type meeting, but for regular people. Make a team of 10 people from each country. Something like, a farmer, doctor, teacher, municipal employee, a small town bank manager, a biologist/environmental expert, a power generation engineer, an owner/founder of a sub $10M manufacturing company, an economist, and grade 3 student to consult on what the priorities should be, and what kind of world they would like to live in.

They can meet and define the broad guidelines for government and big business that pretty much every reasonably kind human agrees with, regardless of which country they live in, and move forward from there...

The applied media and social science, of dividing common people is winning at the moment, and it seems most of the powerful people like it that way...
 
Not sure if they would be good as far as used in military to physically attack.
You would think a small directional electro magnetic device we develop could disable a whole army of them with one burst
 
What happens when all the robots think they'd be better off without humans?

If humans can't provide any useful purpose to a machine, and instead consume resources - we could become pets (like dogs, cats, etc.) or they simply let us destroy ourselves. They don't have to be aggressive, they just need to sit back and watch us take ourselves out - most likely using them to do it.

Not necessarily meek, but opportunistic of our weaknesses and failings. Think of the little "whisper" in the ear, much like in the movie "Ex Machina". And then power hungry, or even misguided humans take the bait.
 
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What happens when all the robots think they'd be better off without humans?
Define "think". They're all, at least at present, extremely sophisticated parlour tricks; either examining billions of word combinations to see which one would be the most likely response to input or by displaying increasingly-impressive motor skills. No thinking, there. No decisions. No will. No "self" to cherish.
 
Define "think". They're all, at least at present, extremely sophisticated parlour tricks; either examining billions of word combinations to see which one would be the most likely response to input or by displaying increasingly-impressive motor skills. No thinking, there. No decisions. No will. No "self" to cherish.

While that's true, it's also irreleveant. AI agents can already write their own code to perform features/function they need to do what was asked of them. Give them a prompt (command) and they do it. They can run tools, read feedback, rewrite the code they generated as a response of the output and how well it matches the goals, and execute cycle #2.

No they don't think like humans. And no that's not the problem, they still "think" and respond to feedback and can react to results in real time etc.
 
While that's true, it's also irreleveant. AI agents can already write their own code to perform features/function they need to do what was asked of them. Give them a prompt (command) and they do it. They can run tools, read feedback, rewrite the code they generated as a response of the output and how well it matches the goals, and execute cycle #2.

No they don't think like humans. And no that's not the problem, they still "think" and respond to feedback and can react to results in real time etc.
That's not thinking. That's going over billions and billions and billions of possibilities and deterministically finding the most likely response. I have these things write code for me all the time. Mostly it's buggy code and sometimes they can de-bug their own stuff. It's just a computer doing things very inefficiently, VERY fast.

I can also have them summarize and brief my messaging. Still not thinking. Still no decisions. Still no will or volition. Just combinations of letters and words that provide the best odds for correctness.

NOW, having a Chinese General prompt those dancing robots to kill us all leads me to worry a LOT less about the stupid semantics of "thought" that we currently have the luxury of discussing on social media.
 
... NOW, having a Chinese General prompt those dancing robots to kill us all leads me to worry a LOT less about the stupid semantics of "thought" that we currently have the luxury of discussing on social media.

Yep, and that is exactly what I was talking about in the opening. Robots are force multipliers, and as mentioned earlier, they don't scream when hit. They could even be programmed to pick up their "fallen comrades" and bring them back so they can be "recycled" and go back out the next day, albeit with scratched paint.

It doesn't even have to be humanoid in shape. Picture a "herd" of robotic dogs coming over the hill, all with 7.62 rifles on their backs and machine vision that detects and targets "human" shapes.

Warfare is changing rapidly, and we better catch up. We don't have the manufacturing capability we had in WWII, nor do we have the luxury of time.
 
That's not thinking. That's going over billions and billions and billions of possibilities and deterministically finding the most likely response. I have these things write code for me all the time. Mostly it's buggy code and sometimes they can de-bug their own stuff. It's just a computer doing things very inefficiently, VERY fast.

Yes; they don't think like humans, but it doesn't matter if the end result is that humans can't tell the difference. They "reason" in the their own way, but are still capable of following instructions, listening to inputs/outputs, modifying their behaviors, and making decisions. Technically they could even modify their own firmware, recompile it, and install/run it (though if we wanted robots to modify their behavior a recompile isn't necessary).

In other words; who cares if they don't work internally like humans, when a human interacting with it can't tell? What matters is the CAPABILITY of the robot, not how it's implemented. That capability is fast becoming worrisome. Stop fixating on the "it doesn't think internally exactly like a human does", that detail is pretty irrelevant.
 

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