Chinese EV models

BYD is not coming to the USA anytime soon. The 100% tariffs turned them off to the idea as well as other "confusing" aspects of the USA market.
It will focus on Mexico and South America/Brazil - Smart move, the US population, as big as we think we are is TINY at 350 million compared to the world population of 8 billion.

My feeling is, it just increases costs for the US consumer. Here we pay up to $11,500 in our tax money per US produced vehicle as it is. All to help people buy overpriced EVs.
It's also about the automakers being able to produce a profit making these things by pricing them higher and the taxpayer subsidizing at the rate as high as $11,500

Think about that, a 25k electric car pays out as much as $11,500 from the taxpayer. $7,500 when bought new and another $4000 when someone buys the same vehicle now used from the original purchaser. I mean with this money being thrown around how can anyone call EVs a success? Even with this all this tax money being thrown around, sales have fallen off a cliff compared to expectations.
June 2, 2024 and tariffs?
 
Not sure about EV but I know a lot of people online who just left China and moved to Europe / US was surprised that certain brands aren't as prestigious as within China. Typically they used to look down on Lexus / Toyota back there because they sold more "base model" trims and got stolen a lot for parts, whereas Mercedes and BMWs all sold mostly top out models and didn't really have owners who couldn't afford to keep them running with their expensive maintenance. They were usually surprised that many working class would pick a Lexus over Mercedes due to reliability and people actually drive their Toyota for 20 years here (30 years ago most people don't drive).

Most of the "concerns" I heard are about prestige (if Geely makes the same quality car as Mercedes and sell for the same price, might as well get a Mercedes) and ride quality. Some of those Chinese stuff are very simple and durable, proven in rural farm road and construction sites, but don't expect US standard ride quality and "luxury".
To some extent it's still this way but GM and VW went in early to the Chinese car market. For years if you were upper brass you drove an Audi or Buick. VWs are a popular entry level car. The quality has improved immensely but from reading automotive reviews there are still quality and design issues
 
Here is an example of how the Chinese companies lie and cheat. So keep on cheering for them and you will eventually get what you wish for. But it won't be pretty.


Quick overview of the video:
Huawei "benchmarked" their flagship model S800 against Mercedes Maybach, and of course Mayback looks inferior in their marketing claims.
However few things came to light:
- Huawei rented the Mercedes under a false pretense
- They damaged the vehicle in the process
- Refused to pay for damages
- They rigged the tests
-- They disabled AWD during the snow test on Mercedes, but not on their vehicle
-- They didn't use the snow tires on mercedes, but used snow tires on their car
-- They deflated the tires on the mercedes model to make the ride rougher over hard bumps because it hit the rims.


 
I think the Volvo EX30 will be the first really “Chinese” EV on our roads next year. I’m excited to test drive it once it becomes available. Will be cross shopping with Equinox EV.

Overall EVs tend to be pretty reliable. Although I did hear of some Volvo PHEVs overheating the electric motor and derating because their cooling system wasn’t up to snuff. That’s not just a Volvo issue, some other EVs derate after sustained hard driving, I think that one was just too soon and too obvious.
Polestar is here already made in China .
 
Here is an example of how the Chinese companies lie and cheat. So keep on cheering for them and you will eventually get what you wish for. But it won't be pretty.


Quick overview of the video:
Huawei "benchmarked" their flagship model S800 against Mercedes Maybach, and of course Mayback looks inferior in their marketing claims.
However few things came to light:
- Huawei rented the Mercedes under a false pretense
- They damaged the vehicle in the process
- Refused to pay for damages
- They rigged the tests
-- They disabled AWD during the snow test on Mercedes, but not on their vehicle
-- They didn't use the snow tires on mercedes, but used snow tires on their car
-- They deflated the tires on the mercedes model to make the ride rougher over hard bumps because it hit the rims.



So typical Chinese business integrity.
 
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