Yea-but most of us will be dead when they "take over".
Chinese EV models
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From BITOG? "Most".
Their biggest shortcoming was supposedly the quality of the sheet metal. I remember my kid noticed one that was still parked on the street. I'm thinking it was in good working order, but that metal was all rusty - even in California.
My parents prefer a Japanese made one but most likely a placebo. I just want something that has a proven track record of 300k miles and 25 years.
No EV has a 25 year track record. Although Ford had the Ranger EV 98-02 and of course GM EV1 96-99. So technically we could say Ford and GM have 25 years of experience with EV?
I think it requires a whole different approach when it comes to track record of EV models and the companies behind them. Especially given how many EVs use parts and/or battery tech from other companies. And even within the same EV model the batteries change all the time.
True, but they can have a design life expectancy of 25 years. The body should be fine as would the electric motor (hybrid has been around for almost 25 years now), the battery we just have to trust the accelerated test results (higher temperature accelerate aging so if they test it with the right amount of heat it should give us expected lifespan in normal temperature).
Yes, we want low prices but interestingly just today, China is warning the world needs them, they are getting quite concerned. Companies offshoring from China, investments from companies down to a 20 YEAR LOW! (yeah) They are calling it de-coupling!
It's heartening to see. US citizens pouring money into our enemy is starting to get noticed and becoming a "thing" for companies to get out. The thing is, China has got away with so much, NOW they are changing their tune. I hope it doesnt reverse what is starting to happen.
https://www.reuters.com/world/chinas-xi-lauds-belt-road-smaller-greener-summit-2023-10-18/
I just read that Arkansas has kicked out a large land owning Chinese company and is not allowing Chinese purchases of land in Arkansas.
Because businesses go there and we consumers (not just America) buy the products. We live and operate in a world market, and China is a manufacturing powerhouse.
Correction = China is a "low wage" manufacturing powerhouse.
Thought I would make that statement since you are a strong supporter of unions and the UAW.
If I remember correctly.Try to organize in China and you will "disappear"
Half kidding... but I assume you read the story and todays news, China is at a 20year low of foreign investments as companies de-couple from China as Xi mentions today.
World events are showing the American people exactly what they are and their intentions.
Sure, for production at least. But remember China is also an engineering powerhouse because they put a priority on science and engineers. This is a key reason companies like Porsche have such a large presence there. China has been home to a Porsche Engineering facility for over 20 years.Correction = China is a "low wage" manufacturing powerhouse.
Thought I would make that statement since you are a strong supporter of unions and the UAW.
Try to organize in China and you will "disappear"
Half kidding... but I assume you read the story and todays news, China is at a 20year low of foreign investments as companies de-couple from China as Xi mentions today.
World events are showing the American people exactly what they are and their intentions.
In the past three decades, China has become a major contributor to science and technology. China now employs an increasingly large labor force of scientists and engineers at relatively high earnings and produces more science and engineering degrees than the United States at all levels, particularly bachelor's.
Education and innovation is key. Innovation is not known as a characteristic of the Big 2.5.
People often forget how China seems to help themselves to technology they have no legal right to.Correction = China is a "low wage" manufacturing powerhouse.
Thought I would make that statement since you are a strong supporter of unions and the UAW.
Try to organize in China and you will "disappear"
Half kidding... but I assume you read the story and todays news, China is at a 20year low of foreign investments as companies de-couple from China as Xi mentions today.
World events are showing the American people exactly what they are and their intentions.
Yes, another news story that I didnt post in post #91 China almost admits to it, moving forward talking about protecting intellectual property... to me that is showing desperation on their part after stealing almost every western manufacturing and technology idea. There reputation finally being ruined.People often forget how China seems to help themselves to technology they have no legal right to.
If I can find it again, Ill post it ... but I read a lot of stuff *LOL*
Yep, they were rust buckets in that era, but then all of the small cars were, look at 3-4 year old Vegas during that time frame. They were all built cheap to sell cheap and little effort was put into the designs and materials that would fend-off rust.
That's a common practice everywhere, especially in high tech. China is good at it, but they are hardly the only ones.People often forget how China seems to help themselves to technology they have no legal right to.
I didn't say they were the only ones, but I'd be willing to bet they're the biggest offender.