Chinese EV models

People are sure buying those Chinese made 1.2L Buick Envistas. They were everywhere instantly here.
Maybe we’re going back to basics when you could buy a Japanese built Datsun B-210 with a 1.2 liter engine.

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Well it’s Chinese built now and everyone seems to think that’s the enemy these days. I’m not so bothered, but some seem extremely worked up by that.
Back in 1975, when the B-210 was hot, WW2 had been over 30 years earlier ( remember Pearl Harbour? ) and the Vietnam war had only been over for a few years. Americans had a really tough time accepting Asian built vehicles. Seems to be China’s turn.
 
There you go shooting the messenger again. 21% owned by the muskrat, who else is holding the other 79%.

Elon Musk might be the brains behind Tesla and the majority shareholder with 21.7%, but he isn’t the only one pumping money into the automotive company. There are plenty of shareholders, including Tencent Holdings Ltd.
 
I think it's a bit of a stretch calling MG Chinese with its rich history as a British brand. It's pretty obvious how this is written that they've spent a lot of time making sure it's noticeable. Kind of like Hamilton watches being Swiss. Everything is done to honor Hamilton's American history.

The only thing left of MG that's british is the name. It's an all out chinese product, it would be a stretch to call it anything else
 
There you go shooting the messenger again. 21% owned by the muskrat, who else is holding the other 79%.
Well, I'm not shooting anyone. I am asking you what your point is. By the way, your numbers are bogus.
Here is a recent list of major shareholders.

At least you used to post your opinions, which you are entitled to.
Musk owns about 13%; Vanguard is next with 6.8%.

Tesla, Inc. is an American multinational automotive and clean energy company headquartered in Austin, Texas. Tesla designs and manufactures electric vehicles, stationary battery energy storage devices from home to grid-scale, solar panels and solar shingles, and related products and services.

Perhaps this helps the messenger...
 
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The only thing left of MG that's british is the name. It's an all out chinese product, it would be a stretch to call it anything else
I get that but their goal isn’t being a Chinese feeling product, so what they make versus a from the ground up Chinese product will likely be two completely different things.
 
I get that but their goal isn’t being a Chinese feeling product, so what they make versus a from the ground up Chinese product will likely be two completely different things.

GM made cars that weren't american feeling for the european market, under their opel brand and later daewoo/chevrolet.
Ford used to make different cars for europe aswell.
 
So he doesnt even own the 21% quoted in the article which was updated sept 2023
Do a little research. An article like you posted is hardly credible.
But don't worry about Elon; he's still the richest man in the world.
 
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I have done enough research on the muskrat and his companies, and am not impressed.
You seem to be ga ga over his wealth, that is pretty lame. Answer the question, how much of tesla stock does he own?
 
GM and Ford have been doing business with China for a long time, it is no surprise they have a large stake in it. All these companies are not the once great American companies, today they sell out for the Chinese $$ and in return sell American workers right down the river with no oars.
Tesla has a lot of Chinese $$ in it also but with outside investors owning 85%+ of the company who know what will happen in the future.

Which Chinese company owns GM.

Shanghai GM owns 50 percent and oversees management. GM China and SAIC each own 25 percent. The facility supplies powertrains to Shanghai GM. SAIC-GM-Wuling Automobile Co., Ltd. is a joint venture that was founded on November 18, 2002
 
Of those that are Chinese-designed, in NZ we have the BYD Atto 3 and Dolphin, GWM Ora, multiple models from MG, and a van and pickup from LDV. Not counting Polestar and Tesla 3/Y models that are only manufactured there.

The styling and lower level of software refinement seem to draw the most comments from owners and reviewers. The underpinnings and build quality are much the same as other EVs but some owners have complained of underside surface rust on the BYD. The MGs have been here the longest, perhaps 4 years with no major complaints. The best effect on the local market however is that other EV brands have had to lower their prices to better compete.

We also have models from European makers Opel, Seat, Skoda, Citroen and Peugeot. EVs currently make up 1.77% of all cars registered here.
Quick note. Family members visited your country this past year. They loved it, said it was beautiful and while I sit here today, setting up a new aquarium in our home. We are using New Zealand River Gravel. (go figure!)Distributor was in Australia .

Regarding EVs Its amazing the selection of European makers there. Im not so sure any of them are here in the USA.
 
I have done enough research on the muskrat and his companies, and am not impressed.
You seem to be ga ga over his wealth, that is pretty lame. Answer the question, how much of tesla stock does he own?
I already showed you the numbers. Your article is bogus which is why I suggested you might do a little more research.
Regarding Musk, there are things I am impressed with, primarily Neuralink and including bringing back the Fremont plant and leading the world in the automotive space. There are things I'm not so happy with, to put it lightly.
 
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Back in 1975, when the B-210 was hot, WW2 had been over 30 years earlier ( remember Pearl Harbour? ) and the Vietnam war had only been over for a few years. Americans had a really tough time accepting Asian built vehicles. Seems to be China’s turn.
All valid points. I would add that loyalty to the "Big 3" American companies was a major factor. But with the quality problems of the later 1970's and gas prices, things changed. The first Hondas were junk. Then Toyota changed the world with their quality first and business model of repeat customers.
 
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