Chevy/GM Three Row Thoughts
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Pre-DFM Tahoe, or Pilot/Highlander.
The 3.0l diesel are now having troubles with engines going bad. My daughter has on with 5300 miles on and is sitting at the dealership for a month and a half and probably will be there a couple more waiting for a new motor and turbo. No recall yet but should be coming soon!
The L84 5.3L is not part of the L87 6.2L recall, The L84 uses a Nodular Iron crankshaft & the L87 uses a Forged Steel crankshaft.
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Good point. You could also look at an online quote for a Mopar extended warranty. I believe they go out to 8 years.
The Durango is a now a proven platform and I think is another one to look at. If you need something bigger than you have to look at the Tahoe/Expedition/Wagoneer group. Would include Sequioa too but not with the serious engine issues.
4wd
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I would drive on the interstate and stay off the internet. Those on the interstate are not the problem units 
It's like ShaneCo's "lifetime " jewelry warranty. You have to take it in for cleaning every six months and if you mis one cleaning your warranty is gone.
This UOA trend and thousands of tri-metal colored sparklies in the oil filter showed pending main or big-end bearing failure. I traded it off.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...-d-5w-30-12-2k-mi-excessive-cu-and-tn.396703/
Yes, there are problems with some the 3.0l diesel trucks built between April and September that shed metal from a bearing at the end of the cam shaft or crankshaft. When it fails the engine and turbo need to be replaced. The availability of engines and turbos are at least a couple months out.
Recall is only one of the problems. The lifters fail on both. Multiple class action lawsuits out there
4wd
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The problem is nobody has statical data of problems …
I work with one of the largest gatherings of well paid SUV/LT buyers in Texas - and always struggle to find someone with the billions of problems at BITOG
I work with one of the largest gatherings of well paid SUV/LT buyers in Texas - and always struggle to find someone with the billions of problems at BITOG
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Yes, I was mentioning them both for engine troubles in general, and the 6.2l for the recall.
I hope they have improved, but my 2010 Traverse was awful. Air conditioning leaks, electrical problems galore, and the dreaded 3.6 timing chains started throwing the telltale camshaft position error DTCs that indicated it was going to cost more than it was worth to fix it. Traded that heap in for the Pilot, and I was much happier with it.
Is there many 8-10+ year old ones there?
If everyone is buying new, so when its covered by extended warranty, and they get a loaner, its not really a problem even worth discussing if their truck breaks down? You just get to put miles on someone else's fancy truck.
I would guess most new GM buyers in the upper trim levels, are not planning on keeping the vehicle for the long term anyways?
I did get a bit of surprise last summer, talking to the other Dad's at baseball, and somehow truck problems came up. Everything was 2018 and newer, and they all had a serious drivetrain issue, other than the Tunda, and the RAM classic. New transmissions, and now the replacement is shifting funny, head gaskets and valvetrains... Most was covered by extended warranty, except one guy had 12 year old 200k hwy mile Durango that needed a transmission, which he was going to do, as $7k keeps him out of a new $60k+ one several more years, hopefully... A mazda CX-90 that was in the shop for week at a time for various things....
Those of us with older cars had very little problems comparatively, except the 2008 VW Golf TDI, he was having almost every accessory fail under the hood at 300k miles, one at a time, alternator, PS pump, AC compressor, brake booster pump.
SIL had a 21 Buick Enclave. I always thought of it as an oversized van. But dang if it wasn't a pretty decent vehicle. Never any mechanical issues during the 75K miles she owned it. The third row was actual usable by an adult (once you got back there). It was a great trip vehicle as it was very comfortable, handled decently, and actually got pretty good gas mileage (25mpg or so) for it's size. Lots of creature features and swallowed lots of cargo/luggage as well. She was thinking of getting another one recently but decided on something a little smaller (she's in her 70's). Downside with a new one is I wonder how much longer Buick will be around? I assume GM would authorize Chevy to handle warranty work should Buick disappear (note I have read that lots of dealers that handled GMC, Buick, Cadillac, especially in rural areas, have dropped Buick and Cadillac brands. I have personally seen this happen in western kansas.)
JTK
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As much as I love our 2021 Traverse LS AWD, I think I would avoid the latest gen Traverse with the 2.5 turbo.
I would very much recommend a 2020-2023 Traverse if you are in the market for a 3 row vehicle.
I'm not sure on the latest generation Traverse and GMC Acadia , but the 2018-2023 versions of these vehicles are very different. People tend to lump them together. They are completely different bodies and completely different 3.6L engines. The Traverse is larger and wider and uses the LFY 3.6L. The Acadia is smaller and uses the LGX 3.6L. The shift by wire system on the Acadia seems to create more problems vs the cable shift on the larger Traverse. The LFY 3.6 tends to have less problems than the LGX as well if you follow the associated forums.
I would very much recommend a 2020-2023 Traverse if you are in the market for a 3 row vehicle.
I'm not sure on the latest generation Traverse and GMC Acadia , but the 2018-2023 versions of these vehicles are very different. People tend to lump them together. They are completely different bodies and completely different 3.6L engines. The Traverse is larger and wider and uses the LFY 3.6L. The Acadia is smaller and uses the LGX 3.6L. The shift by wire system on the Acadia seems to create more problems vs the cable shift on the larger Traverse. The LFY 3.6 tends to have less problems than the LGX as well if you follow the associated forums.
Not just the engine. That 10 speed transmission is just as much if not even more of a mess.
