ChevronTexaco last week unveiled an enhanced version Havoline

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Hoping to distinguish its Havoline from that sold by Shell, ChevronTexaco last week unveiled an enhanced version of its flagship motor oil.

ChevronTexaco officials called the reformulation a continuation of Texaco’s efforts to keep Havoline a premium product. They also acknowledged that the most immediate competitor is the other company using the same brand.

“We’re always trying to distinguish our product from the competition,” said Peter Fuentes-Afflick, brand support manager for North America, “in this case, specifically from Shell’s offering.”

Havoline is the fourth best-selling motor oil in the United States, ranking behind Pennzoil, Quaker State and Valvoline. ChevronTexaco and Shell have both been selling Havoline products since February, when Shell bought out Texaco’s stake in Equilon, a downstream joint venture that included both partners’ lubes businesses in the United States. The sale, required by the Federal Trade Commission as a condition of Texaco’s merger with Chevron, gave Shell temporary rights to the Havoline brand through July of 2003. ChevronTexaco’s rights are permanent.

Even before the introduction of “enhanced Havoline,” ChevronTexaco had reformulated Havoline products, along with other Texaco lubes that it continues to market; the Equilon buyout gave Shell rights to existing formulas. Staff engineer Mark Sztenderowicz said the first reformulation was similar to the Equilon product. The new version, available in SAE 5w30, 10W-30, 10W-40 and 20W-50, -30 and -40 grades, uses a different additive formulation to provide greater wear protection.

“There is no new industry specification requiring performance upgrades right now, but regardless, our customers look to us to provide a premium quality oil,” Sztenderowicz said. “When we looked at the areas we could improve upon, [wear protection] stood out as one where we could most readily make an improvement.”

ChevronTexaco also wants to underscore for customers that, at least for the moment, there are different producers selling different Havoline products. ChevronTexaco believes that Shell has benefited from a Havoline NASCAR sponsorship and Havoline advertising campaigns paid for by ChevronTexaco.

Shell officials could not be reached for comment.

If ChevronTexaco can distinguish its Havoline from Shell’s, it may keep more of the fruits of such efforts for itself. At the same time, Fuentes-Afflick said, ChevronTexaco will be investing in an asset in which it has a long-term interest.

“We feel that since we will have full rights to the brand come August 2003, we have had to do the yeoman’s job of propping up the brand,” he said. “We haven’t observed similar support from Shell.”

By Tim Sullivan
 
Someone quick! Grab some of the old Havoline and do a virgin analysis, and then we can see if the new and improved stuff is for real, or just marketing hype!
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"ChevronTexaco last week unveiled an enhanced version of its flagship motor oil."

The term flagship to me leads me to beleive this new Havoline will be a tad better formulation than the Chevron SL oil.

Looks like other OTC's are going to have to step up if what I read into this is correct.Or stay as they are and be left in the dust
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Hoping to distinguish its Havoline from that sold by Shell, ... a continuation of Texaco’s efforts to keep Havoline a premium product.

uhuh, that's why equilon havoline synthetic motor oils is group 4; chevron synthetic motor oil is also group 4; but texaco havoline synthetic is group 3.

And, that's why equilon havoline motor oil is "CAS# 64742-54-7 Hydrotreated heavy paraffinic distillate" and texaco havoline motor oil is "Highly refined mineral oil (C15 - C50)" and they decline to give a CAS#.

Info from equilon MSDS 10/13/00, 8/17/01
and chevron/texaco MSDS 9/13/02, 2/6/02,

[ November 06, 2002, 09:22 PM: Message edited by: impala_sc ]
 
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'And, that's why equilon havoline motor oil is "CAS# 64742-54-7 Hydrotreated heavy paraffinic distillate"

Thats not a Group IV Pao as posted above,it's a Group III base

The Equilon Havoline is a Group II as posted above

[ November 06, 2002, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: dragboat ]
 
sorry, I'm a noobie here so have mercy. but...

would not "hydrotreated" be better than "highly refined"?

And as for equilon synthetic, from their msds:
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MATERIAL IDENTITY: HAVOLINE® Synthetic Motor Oil 5w30:

68037-01-4 70 - 79.99 %weight Synthetic aliphatic hydrocarbon
Proprietary 5 - 9.99 %weight Alkyl carboxylic acid ester
64742-65-0 1 - 4.99 %weight Hydrotreated dewaxed heavy paraffinic distillate
64742-54-7 3 - 8.99 %weight Hydrotreated heavy paraffinic distillate
84605-20-9 1 - 4.99 %weight Polyethylene amine

34315-11629-100R-2000-10-13 10:38:43

Isn't this a Group4 with ~1/8th distilled carrier oils? PAO is a type of synthetic aliphatic hydrocarbon.
 
Sorry-really too confusing to me
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. Just goes to show what happens when mergers run amuck. I'll pass on the Havoline (whichever bottle it happens to be.
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"MATERIAL IDENTITY: HAVOLINE® Synthetic Motor Oil 5w30:

68037-01-4 70 - 79.99 %weight Synthetic aliphatic hydrocarbon
Proprietary 5 - 9.99 %weight Alkyl carboxylic acid ester
64742-65-0 1 - 4.99 %weight Hydrotreated dewaxed heavy paraffinic distillate
64742-54-7 3 - 8.99 %weight Hydrotreated heavy paraffinic distillate
84605-20-9 1 - 4.99 %weight Polyethylene amine

34315-11629-100R-2000-10-13 10:38:43"

This is from 2 years ago when they did have a full synth. It had approx. 75% PAO, 10% Esters, 3% group III, some heavy brightstocks, and a little bit of VII.

I think they have since slid into the mire of being all Group III.

[ November 08, 2002, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: MolaKule ]
 
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