chat with Pennzoil

[SteveSRT8]

Nice chat with the pennzoil engineers, not much real stuff but some is interesting...

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f478/pennzoil-enginners-q-session-634943/

 

[Clevy]

Well pennzoil really isn't saying much in that thread. However since pennzoil worked with Chrysler to formulate this particular oil,specifically for srt engines one should be able to assume it would be more suited to this particular application than other off the shelf oils since pennzoil formulated it for these specific engines and application........right?

 

[beast3300]

The better question is why did Chrysler drop M1 0w40? Isn't that what previous SRT vehicles had?

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: beast3300
The better question is why did Chrysler drop M1 0w40? Isn't that what previous SRT vehicles had?


IIRC, when they went through the bankruptcy, FIAT already had a deal setup with SOPUS, so they changed over to what the parent company used.

 

[PSE]

Originally Posted By: beast3300
The better question is why did Chrysler drop M1 0w40? Isn't that what previous SRT vehicles had?


my guess is that Chrysler moving from Mobil to Pennzoil products is more to do with Shell's relationship with Fiat/Scuderia Ferrari and not a result of Mobil 1 deficiency.

 

[beast3300]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: beast3300
The better question is why did Chrysler drop M1 0w40? Isn't that what previous SRT vehicles had?


IIRC, when they went through the bankruptcy, FIAT already had a deal setup with SOPUS, so they changed over to what the parent company used.


Oh I see... Interesting.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: PSE
Originally Posted By: beast3300
The better question is why did Chrysler drop M1 0w40? Isn't that what previous SRT vehicles had?


my guess is that Chrysler moving from Mobil to Pennzoil products is more to do with Shell's relationship with Fiat/Scuderia Ferrari and not a result of Mobil 1 deficiency.

I think this statement is pretty close to accurate. M1 0w-40 is the most awarded oil on the planet. I doubt there isn't anything it can't do,other than qualify for CAFE.
Anyways it in Chrysler's best interest to work with shell on this oil. Bragging rights for one since doesn't shell formulate oil for Ferrari?
That alone would impress most folks even though it doesn't mean much. And an oil custom tailored to specific engines,formulated for just those particular engines and the way they run is a way for Chrysler to focus consumers attention to buying it,with the standard warrantee denial threats if you don't use this specific product blah blah blah.
It's a bonafide way to corner a market,and both companies reap the rewards

 

[SteveSRT8]

Actually the Pennzoil folks literally formulated this oil for SRT division. That should yield a slightly more focused product, but my car was raised on M1 0W-40 and it is a great product as well.

 

[4ever4d]

I know there is a substantial difference between the SRT and a traditional hemi enine but i wonder how the Pennzoil Ultra 0w-40 would perform in an engine designed for 5w-20?

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: 4ever4d
I know there is a substantial difference between the SRT and a traditional hemi enine but i wonder how the Pennzoil Ultra 0w-40 would perform in an engine designed for 5w-20?


Actually while there are many differences none of them are major at all.

Go here: www.allpar.com and read about them, they're just 'hopped up' regular hemis. All the standard hop ups like bigger cam, bigger valves, different intake, etc. coupled with sharper programming, etc.

And as a mod at 300cforums.com I can tell you that since 2005 we have been running all different weights in all the new gen Hemis and have never had a problem with ANY oil.

They are simply not particular about oil choice at all.

 

[buster]

^ good engines. I loved my 05 Ram with the Hemi for the short time I had it. Awful gas mileage though.

 

[CATERHAM]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: 4ever4d
I know there is a substantial difference between the SRT and a traditional hemi enine but i wonder how the Pennzoil Ultra 0w-40 would perform in an engine designed for 5w-20?


Actually while there are many differences none of them are major at all.

Go here: www.allpar.com and read about them, they're just 'hopped up' regular hemis. All the standard hop ups like bigger cam, bigger valves, different intake, etc. coupled with sharper programming, etc.

And as a mod at 300cforums.com I can tell you that since 2005 we have been running all different weights in all the new gen Hemis and have never had a problem with ANY oil.

They are simply not particular about oil choice at all.

Steve I understand the point you're making, but the advantage of the PU 0W-40 (or even PU 5W-40 or M1 0W-40) is to deal with the very real possibility of oil temp's as high as 300F in a track driven SRT.
The same vehicle running a 20wt oil driven on the street where oil temp's likely won't even see 250F is actually running an oil with an operational viscosity higher than what's seen on the track with the higher grade oil.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Thank you for pointing that out. I was really trying to illustrate that the MDS functions well no matter the oil grade in street driving only.

 

[CATERHAM]

Steve, do the SRT family of vehicles come equipped with oil temp' and oil pressure gauges?