It's a classic but i drive it pretty often and never goes more than a week without being driven , the filter it uses is a EFL90
Changing filter every other oci
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Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
it's API SL Rated, an it doesn't say anything about synthetic, this is the place i'm buying it from http://www.pidenosaceite.es/aceite-valvoline-coche/74-aceite-valvoline-vr1-racing-20w50.html
It looks like it's this stuff
http://www.valvolineeurope.com/english/products/engine_oils/vr1_racing/cid(7558)/vr1_racing_20w-50
Which according to Valvoline Europe is a high performance conventional oil, it's PI sheet states "suitable for normal day to day driving". It's also API SL and ACEA A3/B4 and has a TBN of 12.0 !!!
Sounds Great !!
They also have a 10W-60 semi-synthetic and a 5W-50 full synthetic VR1. All high Zinc, high TBN and road legal. Looks like motorcycles are a big market, Moto Guzzi & Husqvarna & Aprilla for the 10W-60, with Harley Davidson for the 20W-50.
it's API SL Rated, an it doesn't say anything about synthetic, this is the place i'm buying it from http://www.pidenosaceite.es/aceite-valvoline-coche/74-aceite-valvoline-vr1-racing-20w50.html
It looks like it's this stuff
http://www.valvolineeurope.com/english/products/engine_oils/vr1_racing/cid(7558)/vr1_racing_20w-50
Which according to Valvoline Europe is a high performance conventional oil, it's PI sheet states "suitable for normal day to day driving". It's also API SL and ACEA A3/B4 and has a TBN of 12.0 !!!
Sounds Great !!
They also have a 10W-60 semi-synthetic and a 5W-50 full synthetic VR1. All high Zinc, high TBN and road legal. Looks like motorcycles are a big market, Moto Guzzi & Husqvarna & Aprilla for the 10W-60, with Harley Davidson for the 20W-50.
Originally Posted By: SR5
Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
it's API SL Rated, an it doesn't say anything about synthetic, this is the place i'm buying it from http://www.pidenosaceite.es/aceite-valvoline-coche/74-aceite-valvoline-vr1-racing-20w50.html
It looks like it's this stuff
http://www.valvolineeurope.com/english/products/engine_oils/vr1_racing/cid(7558)/vr1_racing_20w-50
Which according to Valvoline Europe is a high performance conventional oil, it's PI sheet states "suitable for normal day to day driving". It's also API SL and ACEA A3/B4 and has a TBN of 12.0 !!!
Sounds Great !!
They also have a 10W-60 semi-synthetic and a 5W-50 full synthetic VR1. All high Zinc, high TBN and road legal. Looks like motorcycles are a big market, Moto Guzzi & Husqvarna & Aprilla for the 10W-60, with Harley Davidson for the 20W-50.
Try this link
http://www.valvolineeurope.com/english/products/engine_oils/vr1_racing?category=cars
Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
it's API SL Rated, an it doesn't say anything about synthetic, this is the place i'm buying it from http://www.pidenosaceite.es/aceite-valvoline-coche/74-aceite-valvoline-vr1-racing-20w50.html
It looks like it's this stuff
http://www.valvolineeurope.com/english/products/engine_oils/vr1_racing/cid(7558)/vr1_racing_20w-50
Which according to Valvoline Europe is a high performance conventional oil, it's PI sheet states "suitable for normal day to day driving". It's also API SL and ACEA A3/B4 and has a TBN of 12.0 !!!
Sounds Great !!
They also have a 10W-60 semi-synthetic and a 5W-50 full synthetic VR1. All high Zinc, high TBN and road legal. Looks like motorcycles are a big market, Moto Guzzi & Husqvarna & Aprilla for the 10W-60, with Harley Davidson for the 20W-50.
Try this link
http://www.valvolineeurope.com/english/products/engine_oils/vr1_racing?category=cars
Oh good, i'm actually buying another Capri soon so i may give VR1 a try in it first
Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
It's a classic but i drive it pretty often and never goes more than a week without being driven , the filter it uses is a EFL90
If the oil comes up to temperature for about 15 minutes or so once a week, the water / condensation in the oil will be driven off thus making life easier for the cellulose and cellulose blend filter media. There is a time lag between when the coolant gets to temperature and when the oil comes up to temperature. If you are consistently short tripping then a common cellulose filter might have issues over a 1 year FCI.
As an example, here are Ford recommendations for 2004 Ford Ranger 4L V6. This is a descendant of your engine.
3000 miles / 3 months special operations.
5000 miles / 6 months normal operations.
The time limit would relate to the number of cold starts on a filter.
IIRC your engine would have been specified to use 10W30 at least in the US. 20W50 would stress the filter media more than the 10W30 with respect to cold starts.
I have a friend that has done many restorations and he recommends high viscosity Valvoline oils for engines like this. I have seen him take a vehicle with 200K miles and then run another 150K to 200K on them using this plan.
If you are short tripping and bring the oil up to temp once a week use a cellulose / synthetic blend filter.
If you are short tripping and do not bring the oil up to temp once a week then use a metal backed full synthetic filter.
Only a full synthetic filter makes sense for a 2 year FCI.
Average filtration efficiency is all that is needed. 90% - 95% @ 20 micron.
I would also go for a free flowing filter. I.E., one with a low delta P at operating conditions. WIX comes to mind but I do not know that you can get them.
It's a classic but i drive it pretty often and never goes more than a week without being driven , the filter it uses is a EFL90
If the oil comes up to temperature for about 15 minutes or so once a week, the water / condensation in the oil will be driven off thus making life easier for the cellulose and cellulose blend filter media. There is a time lag between when the coolant gets to temperature and when the oil comes up to temperature. If you are consistently short tripping then a common cellulose filter might have issues over a 1 year FCI.
As an example, here are Ford recommendations for 2004 Ford Ranger 4L V6. This is a descendant of your engine.
3000 miles / 3 months special operations.
5000 miles / 6 months normal operations.
The time limit would relate to the number of cold starts on a filter.
IIRC your engine would have been specified to use 10W30 at least in the US. 20W50 would stress the filter media more than the 10W30 with respect to cold starts.
I have a friend that has done many restorations and he recommends high viscosity Valvoline oils for engines like this. I have seen him take a vehicle with 200K miles and then run another 150K to 200K on them using this plan.
If you are short tripping and bring the oil up to temp once a week use a cellulose / synthetic blend filter.
If you are short tripping and do not bring the oil up to temp once a week then use a metal backed full synthetic filter.
Only a full synthetic filter makes sense for a 2 year FCI.
Average filtration efficiency is all that is needed. 90% - 95% @ 20 micron.
I would also go for a free flowing filter. I.E., one with a low delta P at operating conditions. WIX comes to mind but I do not know that you can get them.
Actually the 4.0 SOHC V6 is not a descendant of my engine , my Ford Capri has the 3 Liter British made Essex engine family V6 , The 4.0 Would be a Cologne family engine, and no i don't do a lot of short tripping with it, most of the times i take it out i do long drives where the engine gets up to temp, i'll try to find a good synthetic filter though
Technically that is correct. I believe Ford used similar logic in the Cologne development. Early Colognes had issues.
After having this 4.0L for a while now, I think the Essex line is a more reliable engine.
After having this 4.0L for a while now, I think the Essex line is a more reliable engine.
The British Essex and the Canadian Essex are completely different engines though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Essex_V6_engine_(UK)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Essex_V6_engine_(Canadian)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Essex_V6_engine_(UK)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Essex_V6_engine_(Canadian)
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Our lexus rx300 is coming up for its oil change too.
It has synthetic 5w30 and I run 5k miles on it before changing as I heard the engine shears oil.
I did put in Fram Ultra filter this time and thinking about leaving it in there and just changing the oil.
Ultra claims to work up to 15k miles...but that means I'd stretch it to 3 OCI per filter. Too much right?
I'm leaning to just go with 2 OCI per 1 ultra filter.
any opinion?
It has synthetic 5w30 and I run 5k miles on it before changing as I heard the engine shears oil.
I did put in Fram Ultra filter this time and thinking about leaving it in there and just changing the oil.
Ultra claims to work up to 15k miles...but that means I'd stretch it to 3 OCI per filter. Too much right?
I'm leaning to just go with 2 OCI per 1 ultra filter.
any opinion?
Originally Posted By: wing0
Our lexus rx300 is coming up for its oil change too.
It has synthetic 5w30 and I run 5k miles on it...
I'm leaning to just go with 2 OCI per 1 ultra filter.
any opinion?
That's what I would do (2 OCI on filter) and run the same 5w30 synthetic oil.
Our lexus rx300 is coming up for its oil change too.
It has synthetic 5w30 and I run 5k miles on it...
I'm leaning to just go with 2 OCI per 1 ultra filter.
any opinion?
That's what I would do (2 OCI on filter) and run the same 5w30 synthetic oil.
According to the Cologne web page, the Essex and the Cologne are not related at all. I did not read deep enough. Thanks, those are good wiki pages.
wing0 - You are diluting clean oil with what is already in the filter. Not sure how much of a difference this will make in a used oil analysis if you ran one.
Originally Posted By: SR5
Originally Posted By: wing0
Our lexus rx300 is coming up for its oil change too.
It has synthetic 5w30 and I run 5k miles on it...
I'm leaning to just go with 2 OCI per 1 ultra filter.
any opinion?
That's what I would do (2 OCI on filter) and run the same 5w30 synthetic oil.
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
wing0 - You are diluting clean oil with what is already in the filter. Not sure how much of a difference this will make in a used oil analysis if you ran one.
I don't want to waste the filter too and the car has been on the same synthetic(SOPUS) oil for the past 120k. I still have the same oil in my stash.
Will there be any undesirable effect if I were to take off the filter and try to drain whatever I can out of it and install it back on?
I finger tighten the oil filter so it's easier to take off and there is no leak. I hope the gasket isn't too crushed.
Originally Posted By: wing0
Our lexus rx300 is coming up for its oil change too.
It has synthetic 5w30 and I run 5k miles on it...
I'm leaning to just go with 2 OCI per 1 ultra filter.
any opinion?
That's what I would do (2 OCI on filter) and run the same 5w30 synthetic oil.
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
wing0 - You are diluting clean oil with what is already in the filter. Not sure how much of a difference this will make in a used oil analysis if you ran one.
I don't want to waste the filter too and the car has been on the same synthetic(SOPUS) oil for the past 120k. I still have the same oil in my stash.
Will there be any undesirable effect if I were to take off the filter and try to drain whatever I can out of it and install it back on?
I finger tighten the oil filter so it's easier to take off and there is no leak. I hope the gasket isn't too crushed.
Wing0 - I would not remove it because it may not reseal properly and you might damage the filter.
Originally Posted By: wing0
Originally Posted By: SR5
Originally Posted By: wing0
Our lexus rx300 is coming up for its oil change too.
It has synthetic 5w30 and I run 5k miles on it...
I'm leaning to just go with 2 OCI per 1 ultra filter.
any opinion?
That's what I would do (2 OCI on filter) and run the same 5w30 synthetic oil.
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
wing0 - You are diluting clean oil with what is already in the filter. Not sure how much of a difference this will make in a used oil analysis if you ran one.
I don't want to waste the filter too and the car has been on the same synthetic(SOPUS) oil for the past 120k. I still have the same oil in my stash.
Will there be any undesirable effect if I were to take off the filter and try to drain whatever I can out of it and install it back on?
I finger tighten the oil filter so it's easier to take off and there is no leak. I hope the gasket isn't too crushed.
I agree with WellOiled on not removing and replacing the same filter. However, Honda has advocated changing the filter every other change for a long time. My Civic has almost 135k miles with no ill effects - no leaks - does not burn a drop between changes. I'm using the Fram ultra for several OCIs up to 13-14k miles. In my case, the filter only holds about 5% of the total capacity so my thought is by adding 95% new oil, there will be adequate protection for another 5-6k miles. I believe you'll find plenty of folks who use their filter for more than one change, especially when using the ultra - it is a very high quality, well built filter.
Originally Posted By: SR5
Originally Posted By: wing0
Our lexus rx300 is coming up for its oil change too.
It has synthetic 5w30 and I run 5k miles on it...
I'm leaning to just go with 2 OCI per 1 ultra filter.
any opinion?
That's what I would do (2 OCI on filter) and run the same 5w30 synthetic oil.
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
wing0 - You are diluting clean oil with what is already in the filter. Not sure how much of a difference this will make in a used oil analysis if you ran one.
I don't want to waste the filter too and the car has been on the same synthetic(SOPUS) oil for the past 120k. I still have the same oil in my stash.
Will there be any undesirable effect if I were to take off the filter and try to drain whatever I can out of it and install it back on?
I finger tighten the oil filter so it's easier to take off and there is no leak. I hope the gasket isn't too crushed.
I agree with WellOiled on not removing and replacing the same filter. However, Honda has advocated changing the filter every other change for a long time. My Civic has almost 135k miles with no ill effects - no leaks - does not burn a drop between changes. I'm using the Fram ultra for several OCIs up to 13-14k miles. In my case, the filter only holds about 5% of the total capacity so my thought is by adding 95% new oil, there will be adequate protection for another 5-6k miles. I believe you'll find plenty of folks who use their filter for more than one change, especially when using the ultra - it is a very high quality, well built filter.
Originally Posted By: FastLane
For people who discuss oil, you guys are cheap! Put a new oil filter on!
+1!
"One Filter, One OCI!"
For people who discuss oil, you guys are cheap! Put a new oil filter on!
+1!
"One Filter, One OCI!"
Originally Posted By: wing0
Our lexus rx300 is coming up for its oil change too.
It has synthetic 5w30 and I run 5k miles on it before changing as I heard the engine shears oil.
I did put in Fram Ultra filter this time and thinking about leaving it in there and just changing the oil.
Ultra claims to work up to 15k miles...but that means I'd stretch it to 3 OCI per filter. Too much right?
I'm leaning to just go with 2 OCI per 1 ultra filter.
any opinion?
Just say "NO!"
Our lexus rx300 is coming up for its oil change too.
It has synthetic 5w30 and I run 5k miles on it before changing as I heard the engine shears oil.
I did put in Fram Ultra filter this time and thinking about leaving it in there and just changing the oil.
Ultra claims to work up to 15k miles...but that means I'd stretch it to 3 OCI per filter. Too much right?
I'm leaning to just go with 2 OCI per 1 ultra filter.
any opinion?
Just say "NO!"
Originally Posted By: supton
Surprised no one changes the filter 2x the OCI. Half to a full quart of fresh oil to freshen up the oil, and if one had any reservations of the filter lasting, well no more reservations.
I've done that with my LF9028's in diesel applications.
Surprised no one changes the filter 2x the OCI. Half to a full quart of fresh oil to freshen up the oil, and if one had any reservations of the filter lasting, well no more reservations.
I've done that with my LF9028's in diesel applications.
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: FastLane
For people who discuss oil, you guys are cheap! Put a new oil filter on!
+1!
"One Filter, One OCI!"
No technical information included, as usual.
Originally Posted By: FastLane
For people who discuss oil, you guys are cheap! Put a new oil filter on!
+1!
"One Filter, One OCI!"
No technical information included, as usual.
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