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Here's some news I came across that may effect our future cars, trucks, etc.
Like it or hate it?
Here's some news I came across that may effect our future cars, trucks, etc.
Like it or hate it?
Changes To Emission Rules (video news)
- Thread starter jetman
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Being on the retail side of the car business, I see a big issue on the low end, where someone can buy a decent certified car for 10K or less. Almost non-existent now. The EV mandate would have eliminated the entry level ICE car that is on its 4th owner. BEVs plummet in value once driven off the lot. Also, the constrained capacity since 2020 has meant anything produced is higher trim and more expensive. Will we see less expensive cars make it into production?
The rules changes hopefully will make decent personal transportation affordable.
We'll see.
The rules changes hopefully will make decent personal transportation affordable.
We'll see.
I only hope this is made into law not just an executive order that could be cancelled with the stroke of a pen. This should have been done years ago IMHO.
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I think standards that control large externalities, like pollution, need to decreasing every year. But reading about this change, there is no new proposal yet for the fuel economy standards. Basically it seems like they are just saying they are too high and need to decrease. So, it doesn't seem like anything will change until the new regulation are released.
It's irrelevant. Automakers are going to keep doing what they're doing. The govt can't force them to build dirtier.
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Possibility: Automakers won’t be concerned about fines for not meeting cafe standards any longer. This could, in turn, result in thicker oils meeting requirements in owners manuals since they’re not trying to extract every 0.00001mpg related to fuel economy. Just a thought.
True. OTOH all the misers out there seem to love to complain that there's no longer a car they can buy which is a money loser for the automaker.
Availability of good quality used vehicles for under $10k has been a problem for about the last 20 years, at least in the market that I am familiar with (forget certified, they went away long before that).
It would be great for me, as my car (2017 Camaro) will not Smog Test ... the EPA computer says the car is: "Not Ready To Test." I have gotten that result SIX times in 2024 alone, it's not FAILING the test, it just "Isn't Ready." That means I can't renew my plates come September. No check engine lights, nothing and all the emissions equipment is present and appears to be working.
So right now, I have to look for an aftermarket tuner to dig into the car's programming to see if there's something in there that's making it not ready to test $$$$$$$$.
If all this passes, and smog checks go out the window, it will be one less issue 'Big Brother' can give me grief about.
So right now, I have to look for an aftermarket tuner to dig into the car's programming to see if there's something in there that's making it not ready to test $$$$$$$$.
If all this passes, and smog checks go out the window, it will be one less issue 'Big Brother' can give me grief about.
Unless its an actual law it won't change what the OEM's do because there on a multi year design cycle / product road map. Also given the CARB states won't change their standards anyway it likely won't have much affect. At best case you might see current models stay on the market longer because they don't need to "improve", or you might see a few OEM's import vehicles we don't normally see here.
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Testing is a state problem not a fed problem. There has never been testing in South Carolina.
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This is stock or is it tuned? If stock fortunately your car should still be well within its manufacturer's emissions warranty so why not make this the dealer problem to fix? Not showing readiness on the various emissions channels without CELs etc. sounds like you have modified it with aftermarket software to me.
Watch "Car Coach Reports - ep 2" about coming law changes.
I'd post the link, but it would probably get removed.
I'd post the link, but it would probably get removed.
It's both. The EPA declares a county has too many "bad air days" and the state/ county enters a consent decree to "somehow" solve the problem. For example, both the entire state of NH and Cumberland County ME have exactly the same OBD emissions rules-- two I/Ms may be incomplete from 1996-2000 model years, but one may be incomplete for following years. It's too coincidental for me, and seems like a cut and paste.
To "clear" the consent decree, the state needs to pay for a consultant to figure out, scientifically, that dropping the inspection won't cause the original problem to come back. Noone will want to pony up the money for that, so the status quo stays.
Will the EPA find time to demand new consent decrees? If the political will isn't there, probably not. What about existing ones? We'll see.
Another reason I love SC. NO INSPECTIONS of any kind! No trailer registrations plates or tags either. Wow I miss that.
Now here in NC emissions testing are only done in the bigger city areas. Not where we live. However I have to get a "safety inspection" done at the local fast oil change place and most all like them. Also our boat trailer needs plates (tags) in NC another PITA.
There is a move currently underway to elminate emissions in all counties except one which is the Charlotte area. I think it was already voted on.
Ps, unrelated there is also a move in NC to allow concealed carry without a permit, currently open carry is allowed without a permit.
This car has Supercharged 3.6L? So the supercharger & calibration are not factory!
I doubt emissions compliance testing is going away for areas that already have it!
I heard there was a bill to do away with our safety inspections here in NH. I have low expectations of it passing; it's come up before. I'm on the fence for it, I'm sure it has caught issues for me, as I would be the sort to drive until it breaks (and many are worse, witness Just Rolled In videos). But the state has some oddball requirements tossed in (all windows have to work, that sort of thing), and I believe prior discussions about this have underlined that most accidents are not from vehicle faults and that the roads aren't that much safer with or without.
But since we'd still have to have the ODBII checks I'm not sure it's much of a gain to me either way. Still have to cycle vehicles through the garage. I'm sad as the last couple of years I could task the kids to drop the car off while at school--garage across the street from the HS--but now that the youngest is a senior, that ends.
Thank you for this!
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