Champ PH48XL cut open - 7000 miles

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Champ PH48XL that was in use for 7000 miles on my dad's 2020 Grand Cherokee 5.7L. Oil used was Maxlife Synthetic 5w20. It was replaced with the same oil and a Fram PH10060. The filter seems decent except for some really sloppy glue, and the filter element seems a bit small for a 5.7L V8 in my opinion, seems to resemble a lawn mower filter. The louvers were nicely opened and the silicone ADBV was flexible.

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Champ PH48XL that was in use for 7000 miles on my dad's 2020 Grand Cherokee 5.7L. Oil used was Maxlife Synthetic 5w20. It was replaced with the same oil and a Fram PH10060. The filter seems decent except for some really sloppy glue, and the filter element seems a bit small for a 5.7L V8 in my opinion, seems to resemble a lawn mower filter. The louvers were nicely opened and the silicone ADBV was flexible.

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Very nice work. I Thank You
 
The filter seems decent except for some really sloppy glue, and the filter element seems a bit small for a 5.7L V8 in my opinion, seems to resemble a lawn mower filter.
What's the total media area? You should see the size of the filter they used on a 3.5L V6 Infinity done at a quick lube shop ... it was literally the size of the small cartridge oil filter in my single cylinder 300cc motorcycle.
 
The Fram will be fine, this Jeep sees lots of highway miles, he did 7000 miles in about 4 months. I do have more of these PH48XLs as I bought a box of them from RockAuto. I'm curious to see if the others look the same.
 
What's the total media area? You should see the size of the filter they used on a 3.5L V6 Infinity done at a quick lube shop ... it was literally the size of the small cartridge oil filter in my single cylinder 300cc motorcycle.
That I'm not sure, I didn't cut the media out of the filter to measure it. I'm sure it is plenty adequate for the application, just seemed small since my Jeep takes a PH16 sized filter, and I've been using PH3614 sized filters on lawn mowers. :LOL:
 
Here's a photo I just took of that filter. This was on a 3.5L V6 Infinity. o_O

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You should do a bypass piece seal area light test on that one. Nissan specs the shorty 6607 for many/most vehicles. I'd bet the 7317 would work just fine in that application.

Sloppy glue job for sure on the topic Champ XL, On the plus side, it does use a silicone adbv, as it should.

Beyond excess glue, topic XL looks ok.

Thanks for c&p.
 
You should do a bypass piece seal area light test on that one. Nissan specs the shorty 6607 for many/most vehicles. I'd bet the 7317 would work just fine in that application.
Just did the light test on it, and no light leakage seen. The leaf spring fits snug and tight in the end cap. I put a 7317 size filter on it after this filter. It was 2-3 times larger in size.
 
Just did the light test on it, and no light leakage seen. The leaf spring fits snug and tight in the end cap. I put a 7317 size filter on it after this filter. It was 2-3 times larger in size.
Curious if that filter has raised protrusions/nubs either on the endcap or the bypass piece? If the 7317 was "2-3times" larger, no idea what that filter equivalent is. 7317 only ~3/4" longer than a 6607.
 
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Curious if that filter has raised protrusions/nubs either on the endcap or the bypass piece? If the 7317 was "2-3times" larger, no idea what that filter equivalent is. 7317 only ~3/4" longer than a 6607.
Here's a few photos I just took. The leaf spring seals on that raised ring around the center tube on the end cap, and the mating surface on the leaf spring looked flat. Probably as good as it gets for a metal-on-metal seal. This filter was installed by a quick lube place ... think it was a "Service Champ" or some other odd-ball brand name - looks like a Champs Lab build. I threw the can in metal recycle a while back. Not a bad construction, but it was super small compared to a Fram 7317 sized filter.

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.....The leaf spring seals on that raised ring around the center tube on the end cap, and the mating surface on the leaf spring looked flat
My MP 7317 had/has the raised ring too, but the ring on the MP 7317 I c&p apparently not enough to overcome the space created by the protrusion on the bypass piece. Those raised points were the dark areas on the seal. And there's only so much force one can put on that flat spring before it starts bending out of shape. That would be wayy more than just a closed uncut can. Perhaps the raised nubs on yours not a pronounced. Anyway, I'll be curious to see the how FE7317 does for me, will post pics.
 
My MP 7317 had/has the raised ring too, but the ring on the MP 7317 I c&p apparently not enough to overcome the space created by the protrusion on the bypass piece. Those raised points were the dark areas on the seal. And there's only so much force one can put on that flat spring before it starts bending out of shape. That would be wayy more than just a closed uncut can. Perhaps the raised nubs on yours not a pronounced. Anyway, I'll be curious to see the how FE7317 does for me, will post pics.
Those "raised nubs" on the sides of the cylinder piece that goes down into the end cap hole don't interfere with the sealing between the raised ring on the end cap and the smooth matching surface on the bottom of the leaf spring.

Bad free-hand drawing, but the red lines are where the metal-to-metal sealing is going on.

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Those "raised nubs" on the sides of the cylinder piece that goes down into the end cap hole don't interfere with the sealing between the raised ring on the end cap..
Apparently not on yours. On the MP7317 pretty confident it was/is a factor in what I saw with the light ring. Having used and c&p several of same Champ design (MP7317 latest) very familiar with it. No pics necessary. My pic of the MP7317 seal area found similar to WCW. We'll see what FE7317 shows. Fwiw, I like the MP series and FE series filters, so the seal area findings are/will be exactly as found.
 
Apparently not on yours. On the MP7317 pretty confident it was/is a factor in what I saw with the light ring. Having used and c&p several of same Champ design (MP7317 latest) very familiar with it. No pics necessary. My pic of the MP7317 seal area found similar to WCW. We'll see what FE7317 shows. Fwiw, I like the MP series and FE series filters, so the seal area findings are/will be exactly as found.
On my example, it looks like the raised ridge around the center tube on the end cap contacts the bottom of the leaf spring all the way around - no sign of any light leakage, I just double checked it in a totally dark room with a strong LED flashlight inside the center tube.

The "raised nubs" on yours may not allow the leaf spring to fully seat down on that end cap ridge, and that's why there is light leakage.

I put a very thin layer of bearing grease on the raised ring on the end cap and then installed the leaf spring and pushed down on it with a few lbs force to make it seal like when assembled. Saw a continuous grease print all the way around.

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If the raised nubs were preventing the leaf spring from seating down all the way (which they don't on this specific filter), there wouldn't be a grease print at each raised nub.

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