Off of a 2017 Mitsubishi Lancer 2.4 for 4,100~ miles / 6 months. Used with Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20. Same exact filter & oil went in.
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CHAMP PH2867XL C&P
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Looks excellent at 4100 miles. One thing I don't get, afaik XL supposed to be a premium filter, yet it has nitrile adbv. That said, at this oci/fci, not a factor. I do like the coo.
Thanks for c&p.
Thanks for c&p.
Held up like a champ. 
is it definitely nitrile, doesn’t champ manufacture the delco ultragolds which use some other exotic material
is it definitely nitrile, doesn’t champ manufacture the delco ultragolds which use some other exotic material I just checked the Champ XL filters I ordered from Rock Auto earlier this year and they all have a red silicone ADBV. IIRC during the supply chain crisis during the epidemic which can't be named several manufacturers substituted nitrile ADBV's for silicone as a temporary measure.
Now, now-we all know Champ/Fram/FB is the home of the black silicone ADBV!
(Seriously, the AEM ones are supposed to be as good as silicone, I will test the one in my ACDelco Ultraguard UPF48R when I change it next)Now, now-we all know Champ/Fram/FB is the home of the black silicone ADBV!
That would be very cool to test.. just make sure and do it over 10k and maybe a year + miniumum .
Even so.. if one has to sit around wondering what it is.. why even purchase ?
Think his test will probably involve a match or lighter.
It's been a year already-the thirsty beast usually only gets driven when there's something to haul, or maybe once a month to keep the brakes from rusting!Now, now-we all know Champ/Fram/FB is the home of the black silicone ADBV!
Just looking for black smoke!Think his test will probably involve a match or lighter.
ADBV Burn Test - Silicone vs Nitrile Rubber
I posted some of this information in another thread, but thought I would dedicate a thread showing the difference between how silicone vs nitrile rubber burns. The tables below show the key differences when the rubber is burned. If you have a doubt on if the ADBV is silicone or nitrile (ie, a...
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IDK if "AEM" is as good as silicone, or perhaps somewhat better than nitrile. I do know that silicone has been used on premium filters for a long time. It is superior to nitrile for longer service intervals, heat cold cycles and changes in temps. Also, afaik, of the Champ made filters, 'only' ACDelco (not topic XL) claim AEM being used. AEM is followed by the word "rubber" in ACDelco published literature. So conclusion, AEM or nitrile, it's rubber.
Perhaps here, supply chain issues were a factor. But, seen a couple XL with black, not silicone adbv. Still only one proven black silicone adbv, the black adbv used on Toyota Thai Denso OEM.
Perhaps here, supply chain issues were a factor. But, seen a couple XL with black, not silicone adbv. Still only one proven black silicone adbv, the black adbv used on Toyota Thai Denso OEM.
Think his test will probably involve a match or lighter.
Haha.. Yeah I was thinking he was going to check for flexibility
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^^^"How about the green adbv in the Toyota filters?" I can't recall seeing a burn test on it, but' I'd be willing to 'speculate; it too is silicone. While not scientific, the other than black adbvs are/have been silicone. However back to topic, as accurately noted, the Toyota Thai Denso OEM with black adbv currently remains unique when it comes to composition.
Otoh, the Denso First Time Fit (FTF) with China coo, have been burn test proven (several times) to be nitrile. That despite their website and box claim of silicone. That information remains from before FTF moved production to China, and they used orange/red color adbvs.
Otoh, the Denso First Time Fit (FTF) with China coo, have been burn test proven (several times) to be nitrile. That despite their website and box claim of silicone. That information remains from before FTF moved production to China, and they used orange/red color adbvs.
