Champ / Luber-Finer PH2867XL - wouldn't spin on

[dubber09]

Bought 4 filters from RA on Dec 29/23, tried one today - would not go on past half turn...
RA shows them as 'No longer covered under the manufacturer's warranty' and they are missing as an option for the car.
I bought them to replace Bosch 3323 that came with closed louvers... that's another 4 filters to go into trash.

 

[fantastic]

RA is a gamble and they know that hence their hard to return process. I try to order things as needed in the near future that way I can return it within 30 day return window. Maybe C&P? Or put them on FB marketplace for free for someone?

 

[dubber09]

I'll try another one or all other 3, took only one with me when went to change oil in daughter's car, 45 miles away.
Ended up putting old filter back on for now, she's gonna bring car to me within 2 months to do brakes so I'll change filter regardless.
It was a good day otherwise, weather was great, had a visit with her and lunch, changed tensioner pulley, belt, summer tires went back on, air and CAF, oil, discovered rear brake pads are about dead.

 

[bbhero]

Well blank that sucks…

Guess the counterfeiters can’t do rudimentary measurements very well…

 

[Mewbs]

Bought 4 filters from RA on Dec 29/23, tried one today - would not go on past half turn...
RA shows them as 'No longer covered under the manufacturer's warranty' and they are missing as an option for the car.
I bought them to replace Bosch 3323 that came with closed louvers... that's another 4 filters to go into trash.

Can you post pictures and or cut them open for us to see?

 

[dubber09]

I'll buy filter cutter just because and cut that champ as well as Mexican Bosch 3323, will post pix later.
With champ, I think threads are the problem thou they looked normal.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Bought 4 filters from RA on Dec 29/23, tried one today - would not go on past half turn...

Did RA show what the thread dia x pitch was suppose to be on those filters? According to a cross reference, it looks like they should be metric M20 x 1.5.

 

[RyanY]

IMO it would be worth contacting Champ. I'm sure their QC dept would like to know of failures. An if their customer service is as good as Fram they will send you a new filter.

 

[KCJeep]

Almost sounds like the threads were tapped for the wrong spec for the filter size. I think we had one on here before with that issue, IIRC it was also a Champ. Been a while I doubt I could find it and I might be misremembering.

 

[Sayjac]

Not long ago, @jeepman3071 had similar/same issue with "2867"Champ XL from RA*. The WRONG label was on the filter and it also wouldn't screw on because wrong thread pitch (sae). Reads like that's what happened here again.

Between the Mexican made Bosch crap (nothing "premium" about it) and now this, you're not having much luck with RA filter purchases.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/interesting-rockauto-filter-problem.379104/

 

[SC Maintenance]

Does the thread look clean? If you have a thread chaser you could try running it through.

 

[bullwinkle]

Does the base plate have any numbers on it? Might be a mislabeled part number (as stated above)?

 

[dubber09]

The car this filter was to go onto is '08 Acura CSX which is basically Honda Civic. I didn't pay attention to thread diameter and pitch, filter was listed under parts for the car on RA site. IMHO, dia is right but the pitch, could as well be the reason RA pulled filter as compatible.
Trying to post pix....

 

[SC Maintenance]

Champ 2867XL is the direct replacement for anything FRAM 7317 and so I think most every Honda and many Nissan's. Its the one I use. Should have a M20 x 1.5 thread. Possibly thread is wrong pitch / mislabeled part. Possibly they cut the threads too shallow. A professional manufacturer would tell you both of these possibilities should be impossible

 

[dubber09]

Thing with that car is to change that oil filter I need to take front passenger wheel off and doing it in driveway, then some oil is pouring on suspension and driveshaft and need to clean that. Why such a design? On both Kia's we have I don't even need to jack them up for oil changes and only need 17mm wrench for drain plug.

 

[Mewbs]

The car this filter was to go onto is '08 Acura CSX which is basically Honda Civic. I didn't pay attention to thread diameter and pitch, filter was listed under parts for the car on RA site. IMHO, dia is right but the pitch, could as well be the reason RA pulled filter as compatible.
Trying to post pix....

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I see marked HF4477 looks like they mixing wrong filters in packages.

 

[dubber09]

I see marked HF4477 looks like they mixing wrong filters in packages.

Made in USA... Great ...

 

[Sayjac]

As accurately noted in my first post, same issue as @jeepman3071. Wrong box and wrong label. Also, same HP4477 received in wrong box, wrong label. Filter equivalent to 4386 used on Toyotas, not Honda/Acura with metric thread.

 

[jeepman3071]

As accurately noted in my first post, same issue as @jeepman3071. Wrong box and wrong label. Also, same HP4477 received in wrong box, wrong label. Filter equivalent to 4386 used on Toyotas, not Honda/Acura with metric thread.

Yup, same exact issue I had. My guess is RockAuto received a bad batch of filters from Champ.

 

[wlk]

Sorry you had bad luck. I bought one last year and it was fine but it was only one.