CATL Unveils Battery With 932-Mile Range

[buster]

Batteries are getting better and better as time goes on.


"This "Freevoy Dual-Power Battery" is not a typical battery because it combines two packs in one, creating "two powerful 'independent energy zones,'" China's Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited (CATL) said at a press conference ahead of the Shanghai Auto Show."

"The battery system balances multiple different chemistries, including familiar formulas like Nickel Cobalt Manganese (NCM) chemistry and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP). It also contains CATL's "self-forming anode" technology, which increases energy density by 60%."

"CATL also says that having different battery types and zones, rather than one static pack, provides a "more stable and reliable power supply" for autonomous vehicles, particularly for Level 3 and Level 4. In the US, brands like Tesla largely use Level 2 Systems."

"CATL also unveiled the second-generation version of its Shenxing battery, which first debuted in 2023 and already powers some commercially available EVs outside the US."

"It has a 497-mile range (800km) and charges to 323 miles in just five minutes, "virtually eliminating the frustration of waiting," CATL says. That's up from 250 miles in 10 minutes on the first version. It's designed to work across a range of temperatures, even as low as -10°C."

Source: PCMag 04/21/2025

 

[goblin]

Sorry, can't help myself. Is the forum's algorithm really that smart?

 

[skyactiv]

Works down to -10C, that is 14F.

 

[OVERKILL]

Batteries are getting better and better as time goes on.


"This "Freevoy Dual-Power Battery" is not a typical battery because it combines two packs in one, creating "two powerful 'independent energy zones,'" China's Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited (CATL) said at a press conference ahead of the Shanghai Auto Show."

"The battery system balances multiple different chemistries, including familiar formulas like Nickel Cobalt Manganese (NCM) chemistry and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP). It also contains CATL's "self-forming anode" technology, which increases energy density by 60%."

"CATL also says that having different battery types and zones, rather than one static pack, provides a "more stable and reliable power supply" for autonomous vehicles, particularly for Level 3 and Level 4. In the US, brands like Tesla largely use Level 2 Systems."

"CATL also unveiled the second-generation version of its Shenxing battery, which first debuted in 2023 and already powers some commercially available EVs outside the US."

"It has a 497-mile range (800km) and charges to 323 miles in just five minutes, "virtually eliminating the frustration of waiting," CATL says. That's up from 250 miles in 10 minutes on the first version. It's designed to work across a range of temperatures, even as low as -10°C."

Source: PCMag 04/21/2025

These type of announcements infuriate me.

Battery capacity is not expressed in miles of range, this is like measuring gasoline tank capacity in miles, it's not a valid metric as considerable elements of where that number comes from are either intentionally or ignorantly omitted, making the figure useless for anything other than making misleading announcements like these ones.

How many kWh is the pack? That's the number.

 

[buster]

These type of announcements infuriate me.

Battery capacity is not expressed in miles of range, this is like measuring gasoline tank capacity in miles, it's not a valid metric as considerable elements of where that number comes from are either intentionally or ignorantly omitted, making the figure useless for anything other than making misleading announcements like these ones.

How many kWh is the pack? That's the number.

Good point thanks for pointing that out.

 

[buster]

Works down to -10C, that is 14F.

Wouldn't cut it in many areas.

 

[CKN]

These type of announcements infuriate me.

Battery capacity is not expressed in miles of range, this is like measuring gasoline tank capacity in miles, it's not a valid metric as considerable elements of where that number comes from are either intentionally or ignorantly omitted, making the figure useless for anything other than making misleading announcements like these ones.

How many kWh is the pack? That's the number.

Please explain when the average driver is concerned about range and how long to "fill back up". Both of the above numbers mentioned-if accurate seems to be more than anybody's bladder on here can last. And it's almost up there with filling up a gas tank to be back along your way.
So-please enlighten me.

 

[Rand]

932miles on a scooter?

Wouldn't cut it in many areas.

it can you just have to keep them climate controlled. if it goes below that.. keep them from going below, probably only a few watts.. also a bonus if you are plugged in for charging. wont miss the 100w. if needed.

now good for yellowknife?? heh no.
but ohio? 85% of the usa? etc.

 

[Zee09]

Just say no to China...

 

[PandaBear]

So this is what bothers me. It is just 2 existing types of battery packaged into 1 and have a compromise that's better. It is not a new type of battery, just a new way to use 2 different types of batteries.

Everyone can do this with enough battery control engineers with existing batteries.

 

[CKN]

Just say no to China...

Yea-because if BYD EV vehicles were allowed here it would put domestic manufacturers out of (the EV) business.

Google them.

 

[goblin]

Chinese

Yea-because if BYD EV vehicles were allowed here it would put domestic manufacturers out of (the EV) business.

Google them.

They sure will do that - they are state-sponsored. Their cost can't be calculated by standard means, and their state has legs strong enough to carry that industry long enough to kill any competition. So yeah, they have to be kept in check.

As for their EVs proper - yes, they are amazing.

And they have one thing in common with the main US EV manufacturer: they are at the same time amazing, AND overpromise and exagerate in the most savage way. It's just that it's one person doing it here, and a whole country doing it there.

- Their range measurements are not the same as in the US. If one needs to compare apples to apples, the closest they can get is find a Chinese EV model sold in Europe, and check what they claim there.

- Their EVs are - once again - impressive, but they don't shy away from sugarcoating it, and flat out lie and cheat. Which is a shame, as - as mentioned - the EVs are impressive to begin with.

This is a typical example:

 

[CKN]

Chinese

They sure will do that - they are state-sponsored. Their cost can't be calculated by standard means, and their state has legs strong enough to carry that industry long enough to kill any competition. So yeah, they have to be kept in check.

As for their EVs proper - yes, they are amazing.

And they have one thing in common with the main US EV manufacturer: they are at the same time amazing, AND overpromise and exagerate in the most savage way. It's just that it's one person doing it here, and a whole country doing it there.

- Their range measurements are not the same as in the US. If one needs to compare apples to apples, the closest they can get is find a Chinese EV model sold in Europe, and check what they claim there.

- Their EVs are - once again - impressive, but they don't shy away from sugarcoating it, and flat out lie and cheat. Which is a shame, as - as mentioned - the EVs are impressive to begin with.

This is a typical example:

While I will respect your post-I just don't put any credence what-so-ever in Youtube being a reliable source for much of anything.
I mean who could post a video? Literally anybody. Who fact checks videos?

 

[OVERKILL]

Please explain when the average driver is concerned about range and how long to "fill back up". Both of the above numbers mentioned-if accurate seems to be more than anybody's bladder on here can last. And it's almost up there with filling up a gas tank to be back along your way.
So-please enlighten me.

If I tell you I have a gas tank that has 300 miles of range, what can you ascertain from that statement that's valuable?

 

[CKN]

If I tell you I have a gas tank that has 300 miles of range, what can you ascertain from that statement that's valuable?

That I can drive a little shy of that before I need to fill up. That I will need to spend 10 minutes (maybe a tad less) getting gas.

Is that a wrong answer?

I mean please share your point?

 

[PandaBear]

If I tell you I have a gas tank that has 300 miles of range, what can you ascertain from that statement that's valuable?

You have a bigger than usual gas tank for your typical vehicle with the same mpg.

 

[PandaBear]

That I will need to spend 10 minutes (maybe a tad less) getting gas.

A bigger than usual gas tank can get you longer range, but nothing tells you how long it will take you to pump gas without telling you the gas tank size and your fuel pump speed.

You can have a semi taking way longer to pump gas than a small car for 300 miles of range. Same with this 932 mile battery because it means nothing without telling us weight or size, and mpge of the car without the battery.

You can already get a car to go 932 mile on 1 EV charge if you have a pick up truck convert to an EV with no payload capacity and put 3x the battery in it today.

 

[OVERKILL]

That I can drive a little shy of that before I need to fill up. That I will need to spend 10 minutes (maybe a tad less) getting gas.

Is that a wrong answer?

I mean please share your point?

So, it doesn't matter to you if the vehicle is the size of an F-150 or a Smart Car?

 

[OVERKILL]

You have a bigger than usual gas tank for your typical vehicle with the same mpg.

Or the vehicle could be the size of a Smart Car.

An 88kWh battery could be a 300 mile battery in a sufficiently small vehicle, and a 250kWh battery might be required for the same range in a Silverado, just like with gas tanks. Listing off mileage, which is a derivative, is completely useless in either instance, without sufficient context, and, even with the context of the vehicle, it doesn't tell us anything about efficiency, because for that you need actual capacity, either in kWh or gallons/litres.

 

[CKN]

So, it doesn't matter to you if the vehicle is the size of an F-150 or a Smart Car?

Well...I would know what size the vehicle was when I purchased it. Not really. If I lived in Rome (been there-parking is a BIG ISSUE)-and I bought a Smart car-or I lived on a farm and bought an F150 and both got three hundred miles-either would suit my needs-depending.

What am I missing?