Cat Owner Question

[kenw]

our solution:

A neighbor's cat liked to wander into our garage whenever the door was left open. One day, before we left for a trip (4 days), the cat evidently walked in.

We returned and the cat's "owner" (no one owns a cat, they tolerate you) frantically met us saying that precious was trapped in our garage....she could hear her crying inside...somehow the neighbor seemed to insinuate that this was our fault.

I hear cat people think cats are pretty smart; at least this one doesn't go in our garage anymore....

 

[labman]

Should have seen the face on the little kid watching when I put the plastic bag over my hand and scooped up my dogs bowel movement tonight. Turned the bag inside out and showed him my clean hand. Then I carefully went down the block and crossed the street to reach a trash can away from everybody.

Smelly dogs usually are do to neglect, although some breeds are worse than others. Healthy Labs, Shepherds, and Goldens seem to do fine with only brushing. My 11 year old Lab, Aster, hasn't had a bath in the year and a half I have had her. I do brush her, and she does get to swim in the river.

 

[satterfi]

I had a problem with one of my neighbors’ cat. So I trapped it and took it for a ride. I dropped it off 20 miles from our town in the middle of coyote country. It never made it back.

So quit complaining and do something about the problem. You don’t have to kill them. Trap them and squirt them with a hose, blow them dry with your air compressor and let them go. They don’t like that. They don’t come back.

 

[loudist]

Like I posted on another thread...
Bowls of ethylene glycol-based antifreeze as a refresher for the tresspassers. I read that just a quarter of a teaspoon of antifreeze kills a cat.
They go home and die in front of their owners, maybe even cost them some dough at the vets.

[ May 07, 2005, 09:19 AM: Message edited by: loudist ]

 

[wavinwayne]

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Originally posted by loudist:
Like I posted on another thread...
Bowls of ethylene glycol-based antifreeze as a refresher for the tresspassers. I read that just a quarter of a teaspoon of antifreeze kills a cat.
They go home and die in front of their owners, maybe even cost them some dough at the vets.

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loudist,
I'm no cat fan, but what you propose is not only cruel, it is illegal as well. I can't stand cruelty to animals.

 

[loudist]

But trapping and releasing in the wild is ok... hmmm

or

How about, get some good cat hunting dogs that will rip it apart, that seems to be less cruel for you.

In California, the Coyotes take care of roaming cats if you live in the hills, even in Hollywood.

Allowing the animal to crap and spray all over your property is irresponsible behavior, in my experience the owners get offended if you tell them about it, so you either live with it or do something about it.
After they lose a couple of cats, they behave more responsibly, because having a talk does nothing.
Either they deal with a catbox, or they have no cat.

 

[Pablo]

I like the idea of catching the cat, bathing and blow drying it....

No cat will ever come back for more of that!!

 

[andrews]

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Like I posted on another thread...
Bowls of ethylene glycol-based antifreeze as a refresher for the tresspassers. I read that just a quarter of a teaspoon of antifreeze kills a cat.
They go home and die in front of their owners, maybe even cost them some dough at the vets.

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This is just sick....no, you are just sick. Look, cats pretty much suck in my book, but doing something that cruel is disgusting and reflects a need for mental assistance.

Trapping and releasing a cat is not a good idea, but if you've done all you can to let the owner know that you mean business, and they still ignore you, at least the animal has a very good chance at surviving. This is hugely different than poisoning a poor animal in the way you suggest. What do you think happens? You think they just die in an instant like in some fairytale? It's long, agonizing, and cruel. These cats don't deserve death, but the owners need a swift kick in the behind.

 

[loudist]

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Originally posted by andrews:

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Like I posted on another thread...
Bowls of ethylene glycol-based antifreeze as a refresher for the tresspassers. I read that just a quarter of a teaspoon of antifreeze kills a cat.
They go home and die in front of their owners, maybe even cost them some dough at the vets.

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This is just sick....no, you are just sick. Look, cats pretty much suck in my book, but doing something that cruel is disgusting and reflects a need for mental assistance.

... These cats don't deserve death, but the owners need a swift kick in the behind.

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If a cat gets 'lost' they just get another one and let the cat do the same stuff ie: use your yard as a catbox.
When croaks in front of them, they suspect someone poisoned it and will then get it that they had better keep the cat's business in their yard or indoors. That is the only kick in the butt that gets through to them when discussion doesn't.
Otherwise its ostridge head in the sand, "out of sight out of mind, besides those cat boxes are so stinky, let it be someone elses problem".
Problem solved.

I read somewhere that if you spray lions urine around the perimeter of your property that many animals won't cross it.

 

[andrews]

Sorry loudist, often I agree with you on many issues, but this one I feel you're WAY off. As civilized human beings, we have an obligation to treat animals in a humane way. Even hunters know this. That's why a quick kill on the hunt is something I can respect. Poisoning a cat is cruel and barbaric, no matter how you try and justify it. Use legal means, face to face warnings, animal control, or just throw something at it everytime you see it in your yard.

 

[wavinwayne]

Crazy as it sounds, finely ground up orange peels will keep cats away from wherever you sprinkle it. I've tried this because of some stray cats we had a while back. It seemed to work. I guess cats hate the scent of citrus.

 

[andrews]

Cool Wayne, maybe I'll try it.

 

[Bryanccfshr]

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Originally posted by satterfi:
I had a problem with one of my neighbors’ cat. So I trapped it and took it for a ride. I dropped it off 20 miles from our town in the middle of coyote country. It never made it back.

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That is my MO for cats I grew up with cats and dogs and have two house dogs and have had many pet cats growing up. When My wife finds dead birds in the yard I usually only have to do a short investigation to find the offending feline. If the feline is tagged I will find the owner and I have never had a problem seeing the cat again after the owner and I have a "talk" . I tell them what will happen if I see the cat again. For untagged cats and repeat offenders it is simple. Feline goes to the beach on my next fishing trip and gets dropped off 60 miles from pavement. Kitty is a good hunter, let's see how kitty does in an environment void of trees and lively with coyote.

 

[loudist]

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Originally posted by andrews:
Sorry loudist, often I agree with you on many issues, but this one I feel you're WAY off. As civilized human beings, we have an obligation to treat animals in a humane way. Even hunters know this. That's why a quick kill on the hunt is something I can respect. Poisoning a cat is cruel and barbaric, no matter how you try and justify it. Use legal means, face to face warnings, animal control, or just throw something at it everytime you see it in your yard.

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Well, its all a psychological game.
Put signs up on your property line stating any animal on your property enters at its own risk.
Also put on the sign that some days there might be small containers of toxic residue on the property.
Have small clear plastic cups with mountain dew visible in them conspicuously placed.
Stops them from letting their dog crap in your yard or leg lifting on your tires and wheels.

The reason for all of this is irresponsable owners who think its their world and you should be glad they let you live in it.

There are no laws governing cats roaming according to an earlier post, so no joy in any legal pursuits.
Face to face warnings don't work, as stated.
I am not in the yard 24/7 so I don't know when they are there to throw something at them.
If there is something that will delay enough that makes the cat puke and crap itself in their home, without killing it (like an ipec syrup) I would like to know about it, other than that, problem dealt with.
When they make it my problem, (as I've been told while trying the diplomatic approach "Its YOUR problem") so I deal with 'my problem' efficiently.
You may not like my solution, thats your right.
I just don't have a lot of sympathy for people who can't make the effort to keep their pet from being a nuisance.
If they made any effort, thats one thing, but to ignore their responsibilities thats quite another.

I will try the orance peel thing and see if that has any value.

If you may think I dislike cats, you are correct.
I am an anti-catite.

 

[shortyb]

Most cats do hate citrus. I have sprayed Shaeffer's Citrol on the hard wall borders around my flower beds and it seems to work. One piece of fun equipment I aquired recently is an Air Cannon. Basically a pvc tube that is filled with propane from a small attached, refillable bottle and ignited with a peizo ignitor from a gas grill. VERY loud and when pointed in the general direction of the offending animal, sends them scurrying. Produces a fairly hefty concussive wave too so don't get real close. I got this mostly for the Canadian geese that have seemingly taken over the back yard. If your neighbors get jumpy, just say in your best Elmer Fudd voice, "Be vewy, vewy quiet, I'm hunting Puffy. hehehehehehehe

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[loudist]

How do you get the cat to crawl into the PVC tube?

 

[shortyb]

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Originally posted by loudist:
How do you get the cat to crawl into the PVC tube?

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Tender Vittles

 

[andrews]

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There are no laws governing cats roaming according to an earlier post, so no joy in any legal pursuits.

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In my area a leash law exists for all dogs and cats. From what I've read, this law is in a majority of counties across the country.....it's just not enforced. If individuals push local authorities to enforce this law, some positive changes would occur.

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I am an anti-catite.

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That's funny!

 

[brianl703]

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Originally posted by loudist:
There are no laws governing cats roaming according to an earlier post, so no joy in any legal pursuits.

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It likely depends on where you live. The website for the county 2 counties south of here says:

Q Do you pick up cats?
A No, cats are free roaming animals. If you live in Spotsylvania County and are having trouble with cats, contact the shelter for a trap.

 

[The_Jeff]

If you do trap, clean, and blow-dry a cat, "mark" it with a little hair cut off on its tail. The cat's owner will note it's been somewhere, and if you'll know if it's the same cat returning or another invader.