Canadian Mobil 1 High Mileage is API SN rated..but doesn't exist?

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Along with other new oils, my CT now has Mobil 1 High-Mileage in 5W-20 and 5w30 in 4.4L jugs.

Look on the back of the jugs, and both oils are API SN; but NOT energy conserving.

Go to the Canadian Mobil 1 site, and this oil does not exist on the site at all.

Go to the US Mobil 1 site, and 'your' Mobil 1 High Mileage is still API SL rated.

Huh?

What is this weird 'Canadian' Mobil 1 High Mileage that we have?
 
Mobil 1 High Mileage is new, it didn't appear on Mobil's USA site until a while after their release as well.

I'm guessing the Canadian formula is similar to regular M1 with less ZDDP than the USA formula to meet API SN requirements.
 
I don't think it's ILSAC GF5 due to high zinc - But I have run it in out of warranty motors - a bit thicker in 5w30 & +ZDDP ...
 
Originally Posted By: HKPolice
Mobil 1 High Mileage is new, it didn't appear on Mobil's USA site until a while after their release as well.

I'm guessing the Canadian formula is similar to regular Mobil 1 with less ZDDP than the USA formula to meet API SN requirements.



Canadian Mobil 1 oils, although blended in Canada, are copies of US products...and we know US Mobil 1 High Mileage is API SL.

If a new formulation came out, you'd see it in the US first...so why a different formulation in Canada?
 
Originally Posted By: 4WD
I don't think it's ILSAC GF5 due to high zinc - But I have run it in out of warranty motors - a bit thicker in 5w30 & +ZDDP ...


No, the API cert is what sets zinc levels...so because it is 'now' API SN, it will have reduced zinc levels...like all other High Mileage oils!

The ILSAC GF-5 is the economy rating, so the lack of that would indicate it is still thick in grade...so the 5w30 product will most likely be about 11.7cst, similar to the US one.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Originally Posted By: HKPolice
Mobil 1 High Mileage is new, it didn't appear on Mobil's USA site until a while after their release as well.

I'm guessing the Canadian formula is similar to regular Mobil 1 with less ZDDP than the USA formula to meet API SN requirements.



Canadian Mobil 1 oils, although blended in Canada, are copies of US products...and we know US Mobil 1 High Mileage is API SL.

If a new formulation came out, you'd see it in the US first...so why a different formulation in Canada?


They could be testing the new formula in Canada first since it's a smaller market.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the average vehicle age is much older in the US than Canada because of the salt used on our roads. So selling an API SL oil could reduce its market appeal because let's face it, a lot of the cars spec'd for API SL will be winter beaters in Canada and no one would bother spending $50 on a jug of Mobil 1 High Mileage for it.
 
GL has a host of demands - includes emission system durability (improved)
I put it in my vehicles under warranty - and the longest warranties are often the cats ...
 
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Addyguy: checked the M1 site and the basic thin oils started at 750 ZDDP, but 5w30 has 1100.
Not a bad oil for you right there.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Originally Posted By: HKPolice
Mobil 1 High Mileage is new, it didn't appear on Mobil's USA site until a while after their release as well.

I'm guessing the Canadian formula is similar to regular Mobil 1 with less ZDDP than the USA formula to meet API SN requirements.



Canadian Mobil 1 oils, although blended in Canada, are copies of US products...and we know US Mobil 1 High Mileage is API SL.

If a new formulation came out, you'd see it in the US first...so why a different formulation in Canada?


That's not always the case. Sometimes Imperial Oil will respond to competitive pressures or put a product on the shelf that fits the needs of Canadians more than our american neighbours (and yes I spelled it that way on purpose). Mobil Delvac 0W40 CJ-4 comes to mind.
 
Originally Posted By: HKPolice
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Originally Posted By: HKPolice
Mobil 1 High Mileage is new, it didn't appear on Mobil's USA site until a while after their release as well.

I'm guessing the Canadian formula is similar to regular Mobil 1 with less ZDDP than the USA formula to meet API SN requirements.



Canadian Mobil 1 oils, although blended in Canada, are copies of US products...and we know US Mobil 1 High Mileage is API SL.

If a new formulation came out, you'd see it in the US first...so why a different formulation in Canada?


They could be testing the new formula in Canada first since it's a smaller market.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the average vehicle age is much older in the US than Canada because of the salt used on our roads. So selling an API SL oil could reduce its market appeal because let's face it, a lot of the cars spec'd for API SL will be winter beaters in Canada and no one would bother spending $50 on a jug of Mobil 1 High Mileage for it.


The Canadian fleet is older than the US fleet.
Maybe in Ontario (well, OK, for sure in Ontario, because I've seen your used cars) they don't last long, but west of the Rainy River (about the same population as Ontario) they easily last more than 20 years on the road, and rust penetration on either the passenger compartment or on the body at any under-vehicle area behind the engine exhaust manifold is grounds for cancellation of registration.

You can repair the damaged areas (must be with metal) but to re-register the vehicle then requires a full inspection, which means body and frame integrity check plus every little thing has to be fixed; things like no cracks in the glass, perfectly working emergency brake, etc. Basically 100% roadworthy, something even five year old cars often could not pass (how are those windshield wipers, son?).

We use less (in some areas, no) rock salt in the first place, as it's not effective at the temperatures we experience, and what we do use is far less corrosive.

You have to be a little careful with Canadian Tire, they contract to have exclusive product labelling (like the TVs at Costco, Best Buy and Wall-Mart, can't price match because there are three exclusive model numbers at those three resellers and none are sold elsewhere). So this might be a CT-only Mobil 1 offering, that would not necessarily show up at the Mobil Canada site.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
If a new formulation came out, you'd see it in the US first...so why a different formulation in Canada?

Well, we do have some unique Mobil products in Canada. I don't think the U.S. gets Mobil Super 2000 HM, not to mention at least two of our HDEO offerings. That being said, your point is valid. It's strange, to say the least.

And I'm sure there will be plenty of Canadians rushing to spend over $50 a jug for oil for a leaking engine.
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