Can you ever have enough tools?

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I think not. I have a pretty large set, being a professional mechanic, but there's always something else!

I see it this way, it's a solid investment, because when I leave the automotive career field (which will probably happen soon), at least I'll always have a killer set of tools!

So, what's on your want list? For me:

-18V Li-Ion Milwaukee cordless impact gun. Pure sweetness.
-Upgrades for my Snap-On toolbox.
-1/2 drive deep impact sockets. Not used much, but nice to have. I've been making due with my shallow impact set for now.
-1/4 drive inch pound torque wrench. Those tiny bolts get over torqued way too often.
 
Dude, if you're looking for a career change, let me know. We're hiring (at one of the "big three" Medical Device companies).
 
tpitcher, my sister works for one of the "big three" med device co's, maybe even one of the "big two"...

Anyhoo, depending on tool type, I believe there is a point where you have too much or too many. For example, I don't know how this happened, but I have FIVE (5) Craftsman cordless drills, ranging from 12V to 19.2V, plus one corded drill when ALL the batteries on the others are drained! Is having (7) 1/2-inch drive ratchets too many? I might have the disease where you can't get rid of anything and hoard everything you get your hands on, but only selectively. I can toss the wife's knick-knacks and trinkets very easily...
 
Never have enough tools! (SWMBO will disgree
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Esp if they are the correct ones to do a job.

I'm finding that quite a few tasks that need to be done these days require them. And for some tasks, its better to take it in and have it done.

If its a task that I may do more than once, then I'll get the tool if its reasonable.

What is the old saying?

"A man is only as good as the tools and training to use them"...

Something like that.
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Take care, bill
 
Back in the 70's I worked in the parts department of a large import dealer in Dallas. The Snap-On man would come by every week to visit with our mechanics and at that time they received a pretty good discount from him. I made the mistake of taking a walking tour of his tool truck and took one of his catalogs. Well, I ordered a nice top tool box loaded with all kinds of tools. Every kind of screwdriver you can think of, all kinds of wrenches and sockets, both standard and metric, pliers that I've never seen before, etc. Well, over 30 years later I still have that tool box loaded with Snap-On tools and I've used most of them at one time or another.

Can a man have enough tools, no sir, no more than a woman can have enough shoes.
 
You can never have enough tools. I've acquired a nice set over the years with a simple formula. For several years every time I did a repair myself, I'd get a price that a shop would charge. Let's say I needed a starter, alternator, brakes, whatever. I'd take the cost of the job that a shop would charge, subtract my cost, then divide that in half. Then buy tools with it, or put it aside for a future purchase of tools. I now have a pretty impressive collection tools for a DYI'er, and have saved a ton of money. I started doing it again, and have added some testing tools etc.
 
That basically what I'm doing now too, buy the right tools to do a job with the money I save fixing the car or whatever myself.
Now I'm finding I have the right tools already for many jobs so it kind of takes the fun out of it.
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Not so much having too many tools,but you do end up with a lot of tools you no longer use.I recently had a clean out of my tools at work - took home a complete draw of whitworth tools,all my torque wrenches,all my measuring tools ( most are Imperial,and we don't do much engine work anymore),all the doubled up stuff,broken ratchets and powerbars,metal working tools.I ended up by being able to take my topbox home,and now have the top of my 15 draw rollcab as work top.
 
Originally Posted By: AcuraTech
I think not. I have a pretty large set, being a professional mechanic, but there's always something else!



In theory, I could never have enough tools, but I could write a page-long list of stuff that I'd LIKE to have. But as far as what I actually need, I seem to buy less every year. I've been doing diesel/heavy equipment repair for about 14 years now. When I started out, I was buying $thousands$ of dollars worth of tools per year. After a few years, I needed less and less. These days my toolbox weighs about 1500lbs (set on a custom frame with greasable, roller-bearing dumpster wheels)... and another roll-around cart piled with bigger stuff that won't fit in my box. The past several years, I've spent maybe $200-$300 per year on new tools on average.

Snap-on tools are great and all, but I no longer by ANYTHING from tool trucks. I've learned over the years that I can get pretty much any tool I want, often of equal quality (with a few exceptions), for less than half of what I'd pay on a tool truck (sometimes for only a small fraction of the price if it's something that I won't be using hard or often, and can get by with a cheap tool). [censored], I just bought a new IR2135TImax 1/2" impact off ebay for $225 including shipping (750ft-lbs foreward, 1000ft-lbs reverse. oh yeah.). An equivalent Snap-on impact (which in my experience probably wouldn't be as light or as powerful) would be easily $500.

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So, what's on your want list? For me:

-18V Li-Ion Milwaukee cordless impact gun. Pure sweetness.
-Upgrades for my Snap-On toolbox.
-1/2 drive deep impact sockets. Not used much, but nice to have. I've been making due with my shallow impact set for now.
-1/4 drive inch pound torque wrench. Those tiny bolts get over torqued way too often.


I bought a 1/2" deep impact socket set at Walmart 14 years ago (made in Taiwan). Paid $12 for it- I was broke and needed these sockets to get by for a while. I've used these sockets hard and often for 14 years, and have never managed to break one. I've broke Craftsman, Snap-on, Mac, Matco, and SK... but those cheap 1/2" deep impact sockets are indestructible.

But cheap tools would be poor substitutes for the rest of the stuff on your wish list.

I already have cheaper versions of all this stuff, so my wish list is mostly stuff that I'd like to upgrade. In a lot of cases I don't care much about brand so long as it's good quality American-made stuff:

A nice fluke multimeter with all the attachments

A BIG battery load tester... a shop I used to work at had one that would put up to a 400-amp load test on the batteries, and would read up to 1200 amps when cranking an engine.

One of those massive cobalt drill bit sets- the one with both fractional and lettered bits, in sizes up to 1".

A nice 3/4" drive socket set, up to 3".

A 3/4" IR 2925TI composite impact. 1600ft-lbs working torque.

A BIG Snap-on (or Mac, or Matco, or Waterloo, or Kennedy, or even Craftsman Professional) toolbox to replace my beat-up cobbled-up worn out conglomeration of two Craftsmen bottom boxes, two top boxes and a side cabinet all bolted together.

An auto-darkening welding helmet

A Snap-on 2000 ft-lb torque multiplier with a ratcheting lock.

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I see it this way, it's a solid investment, because when I leave the automotive career field (which will probably happen soon), at least I'll always have a killer set of tools!


I plan on changing careers soon, myself- I'm making good progress on my mechanical engineering degree. So pretty soon I'll have the most complete DIY tool set on the block.
 
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
That basically what I'm doing now too, buy the right tools to do a job with the money I save fixing the car or whatever myself.
Now I'm finding I have the right tools already for many jobs so it kind of takes the fun out of it.
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Seems we're in the same boat. Now I'm eyeing wobble extensions, and a 25" 1/2 " drive breaker bar. There will always be some new or improved tool, it's just a matter of waiting for it to come out.

Since I won't use them too often I wonder how the Harbor Freight Wobble Extensions are? I usually buy good tools, but wonder how bad these extensions can be? onion brought up some good points and has me thinking.........
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint

Since I won't use them too often I wonder how the Harbor Freight Wobble Extensions are? I usually buy good tools, but wonder how bad these extensions can be? onion brought up some good points and has me thinking.........


I've nothing against cheap tools in some cases... but for basic hand tools like extensions (and wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, etc.), I think you'll be disappointed with Harbor Freight tools. A wobble extension is necessarily necked down at the end, and prone to twisting off anyway. I wouldn't expect much from a China wobble extension.

OTOH, I have some China wobble impact sockets here at the house, and they work fine. They wouldn't last long at work (I have some Mac ones there), but they're ok for occasional use.
 
Thanks, I knew there had to be something to it. I usually buy quality. The Craftsman Wobble Set I'm eyeing is about $70, Harbor Frt is about $12, that's a big difference. Nothing worse than burning $12 to find out the $70 set was worth every penny, that's why I haven't done anything yet. I don't think the S&K set in this instance is worth it for me.
 
over time, you'll get the benefit from the labor costs that you save. purchasing the right tools is a one time expense. labor charges accumulate over time, not to mention the assurance that those who you pay to are worth paying.

personally, i tend to do more when i diy. e.g. change oil is not just change oil. i also clean the underside of the engine... things like that... given those "do more" you reap the benefits, not materially though.

allow me to say, quality tools are worth the investment
 
Just a rough estimate here, but I probably spent about $600 on tools this past year as a young guy getting started in life and soon to be married. I got lots of basic stuff: hammers, screw drivers, punches, etc. I also got car specific stuff: hydraulic jack, ramps, jack stands, wheel chocks, automotive tools, torque wrenches, etc. I'm pretty close to having them pay for themselves in less than a year. Between my own DIY stuff and things I've helped others with--who actually paid me some money--I'm nearly there. Anything else from here is icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned.

I should also mention that somehow I became the 'handyman' in my group of friends with everything from cars to computers.

I think it is also an implied fact that chicks dig the dudes with lots of tools.
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