bypass in place of full flow?
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Not really... In order for a bypass filter to work right it needs to have a slow flow of oil through it so it can capture the smaller particles in the media instead of forcing them through; something like 1 quart per minute. A full flow filter flows way more oil than that. For example, my truck flows 20 gallons per minute through the normal oil filter.
Originally Posted By: wcbcruzer
For example, my truck flows 20 gallons per minute through the normal oil filter.
Actually the Cummins pump is spec'd at 30 GPM...FYI
As you stated, you want a low flow in a bypass. You can actually take a "poorer" filter, and reduce the flow through it to increase its efficiency. That is why I think the Baldwins work as well as they do...
For example, my truck flows 20 gallons per minute through the normal oil filter.
Actually the Cummins pump is spec'd at 30 GPM...FYI
As you stated, you want a low flow in a bypass. You can actually take a "poorer" filter, and reduce the flow through it to increase its efficiency. That is why I think the Baldwins work as well as they do...
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Originally Posted By: deeter16317
Originally Posted By: wcbcruzer
For example, my truck flows 20 gallons per minute through the normal oil filter.
Actually the Cummins pump is spec'd at 30 GPM...FYI
You had better let WIX in on this tidbit
Part Number: 57620
UPC Number: 765809576209
Principal Application: Dodge Pickups w/ 5.9L Cummins Diesel, "B" Series Eng. (03-07), 6.7L Cummins Diesel (08) (Fluted Version Of 51607) (High Efficiency Fluted Version is 57620XE)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 6.945
Outer Diameter Top: 3.681
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 1-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Beta Ratio: 2/20=20/30
Max Flow Rate: 12-15 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 20
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.835 2.461 0.170
Originally Posted By: wcbcruzer
For example, my truck flows 20 gallons per minute through the normal oil filter.
Actually the Cummins pump is spec'd at 30 GPM...FYI
You had better let WIX in on this tidbit
Part Number: 57620
UPC Number: 765809576209
Principal Application: Dodge Pickups w/ 5.9L Cummins Diesel, "B" Series Eng. (03-07), 6.7L Cummins Diesel (08) (Fluted Version Of 51607) (High Efficiency Fluted Version is 57620XE)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 6.945
Outer Diameter Top: 3.681
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 1-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Beta Ratio: 2/20=20/30
Max Flow Rate: 12-15 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 20
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.835 2.461 0.170
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Originally Posted By: deeter16317
Originally Posted By: wcbcruzer
For example, my truck flows 20 gallons per minute through the normal oil filter.
Actually the Cummins pump is spec'd at 30 GPM...FYI
You had better let WIX in on this tidbit
Part Number: 57620
UPC Number: 765809576209
Principal Application: Dodge Pickups w/ 5.9L Cummins Diesel, "B" Series Eng. (03-07), 6.7L Cummins Diesel (08) (Fluted Version Of 51607) (High Efficiency Fluted Version is 57620XE)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 6.945
Outer Diameter Top: 3.681
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 1-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Beta Ratio: 2/20=20/30
Max Flow Rate: 12-15 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 20
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.835 2.461 0.170
I'm sure that is full flow, not restricted forcing the oil through the engine passageways. But Cummins specs the pump at 30GPM.
Originally Posted By: deeter16317
Originally Posted By: wcbcruzer
For example, my truck flows 20 gallons per minute through the normal oil filter.
Actually the Cummins pump is spec'd at 30 GPM...FYI
You had better let WIX in on this tidbit
Part Number: 57620
UPC Number: 765809576209
Principal Application: Dodge Pickups w/ 5.9L Cummins Diesel, "B" Series Eng. (03-07), 6.7L Cummins Diesel (08) (Fluted Version Of 51607) (High Efficiency Fluted Version is 57620XE)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 6.945
Outer Diameter Top: 3.681
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 1-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Beta Ratio: 2/20=20/30
Max Flow Rate: 12-15 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 20
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.835 2.461 0.170
I'm sure that is full flow, not restricted forcing the oil through the engine passageways. But Cummins specs the pump at 30GPM.
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Well then, anyone should be able to spin on a
EaBp110 without worries. Neither have a bypass ..nor an ADBV ..and since the pump is rated for 30 gpm then the typical full flow isn't processing all the oil anyway. There's got to be some in block filter bypass in place.
That is, the full flow is a bypass filter in itself. Just not a very good one.
...but Taylor ...just what do you have in mind. That is, why the question???
EaBp110 without worries. Neither have a bypass ..nor an ADBV ..and since the pump is rated for 30 gpm then the typical full flow isn't processing all the oil anyway. There's got to be some in block filter bypass in place.That is, the full flow is a bypass filter in itself. Just not a very good one.
...but Taylor ...just what do you have in mind. That is, why the question???
putting on an adapter to put on a larger filter, currently running the napa gold 1515 (wix 51515). I found one larger but nominal micron rating was 30, stock is 20 and the 1515 is 19 all other specs are exact. so i was thinking maybe a bypass, im running a eabp110 & eao26 on my wrangler (383ci chevy w/ preoiler etc) and the 110 would fit but cant find the specs...or know if its even a good idea?
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You're losing me Taylor. You already have a 110&26 (assumed a dual mount) ..and a 110 would fit?
I think that you're saying that you're considering removing the dual mount and just using a EaBp110 in place of the full flow??
If you can find a 13/16-16 to 1-16 adapter ..and don't have your in block bypass mechanism defeated, you can probably make it work.
Otherwise, I'm lost here.
I think that you're saying that you're considering removing the dual mount and just using a EaBp110 in place of the full flow??
If you can find a 13/16-16 to 1-16 adapter ..and don't have your in block bypass mechanism defeated, you can probably make it work.
Otherwise, I'm lost here.
The Cummins filter has the same threads as the EaBP-series filter...
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I see. NO way. You don't have an in block bypass. You'll have that EaBP either collapsing or you'll be starving for oil.
Now that said, I, in my pre-BITOG ignorance, plumbed dual Chevy 2 quarts on a Permacool remote. No issues. They have no bypass ..and the dual aspect of it probably save the media. I then switched to dual Cummins thread (used the inserts from a Dual Guard) and ran one Be110 next to an SF(whatever it is for Cummins) and had no issues other than putting a few miles on before the Be filter got fully warm.
If you want to put a Permacool sandwich adapter on you 4.0 ..then you can run the lines to a Dual Guard (or adapt your tandem mount to accept two Cummins thread filters) and you'll do fine. I'd naturally put an EaO on after the sandwich adapter.
After warm up, the poppet relief valve will probably be closed and you'll have 100% of the oil flow being filtered at the 3um Absolute level.
Now that said, I, in my pre-BITOG ignorance, plumbed dual Chevy 2 quarts on a Permacool remote. No issues. They have no bypass ..and the dual aspect of it probably save the media. I then switched to dual Cummins thread (used the inserts from a Dual Guard) and ran one Be110 next to an SF(whatever it is for Cummins) and had no issues other than putting a few miles on before the Be filter got fully warm.
If you want to put a Permacool sandwich adapter on you 4.0 ..then you can run the lines to a Dual Guard (or adapt your tandem mount to accept two Cummins thread filters) and you'll do fine. I'd naturally put an EaO on after the sandwich adapter.
After warm up, the poppet relief valve will probably be closed and you'll have 100% of the oil flow being filtered at the 3um Absolute level.
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