Buy a new washing machine or no?

[PandaBear]

Yeah, I can understand that ... but ... if it matters, as I just learned recently, Whirlpool is still an American company. GE is now Chinese owned by Haier and I rather give Whirlpool the edge, more so because all these machines have issues now, its a roll of the dice.

I think like any of these washers, people get hung up on marketing and electronics, fancy lids, front loaders, words like "direct drive" ect, ect.... My wife and I never understood what is so glorious about a nice looking machine to clean your underwear but whatever. Washing machines have been around forever but marketing has people spending huge bucks to wash underwear ... *LOL*

Its just I am been in so many homes and so many people who have issues with this stuff and my plain old Top Loading Whirlpool Elite washer and dryer has now been running trouble free for 15.5 years, which is amazing. In fact I want to replace them just "because" but my wife says no. They still look like new too.
Anyway for me personally Ill stick with Whirlpool over Chinese (GE) brands but I understand if you get burned wanting to switch as long as you know you can with them too. I would contact Whirlpool over this personally but all these front loaders are pretty much crap anyway and OMG, if you want to stay away from one brand forever it would be Samsung. Again, marketing, they make great TVs so people buy their washers and the headaches begin.

You know what I hate about "American" company? The same thing I hate about "Amerian" car company: they rip you off selling you junk while waving the American flag (I speak as a proud owner of Ford Taurus).

Go Germany if you don't like Chinese, don't endorse companies selling junks while waving a flag.

 

[K-Man]

About Speed Queen, the word is to get the models with the old-fashioned control knobs. The company still makes them. Avoid the ones with electronic touchpads. Funny how every manufacturer has problems with those.

Samsung appliances in general have a bad reputation. If their phones catch fire, well, ... Seriously, I've known of several people who bought expensive Samsung refrigerators, washers, etc., and had lots of breakdowns early.

 

[MParr]

About Speed Queen, the word is to get the models with the old-fashioned control knobs. The company still makes them. Avoid the ones with electronic touchpads. Funny how every manufacturer has problems with those.

Samsung appliances in general have a bad reputation. If their phones catch fire, well, ... Seriously, I've known of several people who bought expensive Samsung refrigerators, washers, etc., and had lots of breakdowns early.

Speed Queen make good washers however, their tub size is quite small.
Samsung and LG are all about glitter and not about function or reliability.

 

[alarmguy]

You know what I hate about "American" company? The same thing I hate about "Amerian" car company: they rip you off selling you junk while waving the American flag (I speak as a proud owner of Ford Taurus).

Go Germany if you don't like Chinese, don't endorse companies selling junks while waving a flag.

?? Did you read my post? 15.5 years my Whirlpool Elite washer and Whirlpool dryer have been running with no issues, 15.5 years my Whirlpool Dishwasher, Whirlpool Stove/Range and and above stove Whirlpool Microwave have been running, none have needed a repair.

Maybe you would be better off detailing your appliances (which you make no mention of), brands, and any issues rather then knock a product because it is American made and Im not waving an American flag just because you do not agree with me.
You review of them would be more helpful for people reading this thread.

 

[tbm5690]

Clarification on American company vs made in America: keep in mind the GE factory remained open and continues to produce products state-side. Company is Chinese, appliances are made in America by Americans. American companies still use some "cheap Chinese junk" for parts no matter who you buy.

 

[PandaBear]

?? Did you read my post? 15.5 years my Whirlpool Elite washer and Whirlpool dryer have been running with no issues, 15.5 years my Whirlpool Dishwasher, Whirlpool Stove/Range and and above stove Whirlpool Microwave have been running, none have needed a repair.

Maybe you would be better off detailing your appliances (which you make no mention of), brands, and any issues rather then knock a product because it is American made and Im not waving an American flag just because you do not agree with me.
You review of them would be more helpful for people reading this thread.

Yes I read what you say, I too have a coin-op whirlpool from the 90s that lasted 20 years in a building of 4 apartments, and I am still using a 90s Maytag at home. How is everyone's new Whirlpool doing these days?

That's the 90s. You too should move on now. The only way to promote Made in USA for the long term is with quality instead of a flag. I'm going to keep repairing my "they don't make them like these anymore" Made in USA 90s Maytag, and I'm going to use my "hopefully they still make them like they used to but I doubt it" Made in USA Speed Queen. As soon as someone make a durable no nonsense appliance better than the US made junk we have today I'll jump. We need a foreign invasion in the appliance industry that's reliable like we needed a Japanese car invasion like the 80s and 90s that improves the US-made car quality. I wish Korean would step up but it may take them a long time or we have to wait till the Chinese get their act together (may take them even longer).

As I said earlier, if you want a good quality unit that will be at least OK, get a coin-op machine and put it inside your single-family home.

 

[alarmguy]

^^^ many good products are from American companies and I don’t agree with your broad brush against American, more so when it’s void of facts.
I buy the best products in almost everything I buy irregardless of country.
For me, Whirlpool is it until someone can prove to me it is not.
You are aware LG and Samsung are Korean brands aren’t you? Horrible customer support, find someone who wants to fix them and when you do hope they can get the part. Their washers and dryers/appliances are a train wreck. Maybe getting better but not any better then Whirlpool and never mind their other appliances…
To each his own. We all buy what makes us happy.

 

[alarmguy]

^^^ many good products are made here and I don’t agree with your broad brush against American, more so when it’s void of facts. I buy the best products in almost everything I buy irregardless of country.
For me, Whirlpool is it until someone can prove to me it is not.
You are aware LG and Samsung are Korean brands aren’t you? Horrible customer support, find someone who wants to fix them and when you do hope they can get the part. Their washers and dryers/appliances are a train wreck. Maybe getting better but not any better then Whirlpool

 

[skyactiv]

I have a Speed Queen. Overrated if you ask me.

I would buy heavy duty Maytag top loader direct from Maytag. You gotta register to unlock the price, which last time I looked was $854 delivered.
Maytag gives you a 5/5 parts and labor warranty. Lowes sells the same washer with a different model number to differentiate it and the Lowes unit has a shorter warranty. The Speed Queen fails a test in the Youtube video.





https://www.maytag.com/washers-and-...e-residential-agitator-washer.mvwp575gw.html?

 

[xgmad]

My heavy duty Kenmore is 21 years old...no issues.
After reading this I don't want to a buy a new washer every 3 years...geez!

Better off spending money on that washer while the parts are still made for years to come.

I have 2 GE gas stoves in my house, the one inside is a stainless steel one with the digital control panel, and I HATE IT!
GE doesn't seem to make good gas stoves these days, I had an older one, so old that one day it just cavitated because of rust.

I wish the tops were full stainless steel, because overtime the paint would break down and stuff and become dull.

 

[nickaluch]

Very happy with my speed queen top loader I purchased about 5 years ago. Old school knob control quick 20 min wash cycle and fills the tub to the top with water. Built like a tank

 

[nthach]

I have a Speed Queen. Overrated if you ask me.

I would buy heavy duty Maytag top loader direct from Maytag. You gotta register to unlock the price, which last time I looked was $854 delivered.

We had one of those for a tenant - they called us saying the washer wasn’t spinning at high speed and making weird sounds. The newest Whirlpool/Maytag/Amana Vertical Modular Washer uses a sealed gear case, a plastic splutch with a high/low shift and a belt to drive the gear train. If a bearing or bushing wears out in the gear case, the whole thing is to replaced - you can’t simply open it up and tear it down like the old Whirlpool or Maytag direct drives.

 

[Gimpy1]

No, is that much stronger than super glue? Will it bind to flat plastic?

There are epoxies made for MOST plastics. You can find them at walmart, HD, Lowes etc. It't very important to clean the area of super glue very well, acetone will soften super glue. For high stress areas I use a small amount of fiberglass cloth that is available where model airplanes are sold, if you go that route model airplane shops will have several specialy adhesives also. Just be prepared, specialty adhesives can be expensive. Another important note is that if the parts are ABS plastic you must use an adhesive rated for that type of plastic. You can also buy specialty plastic bonding adhesives at auto body supply shops. Finally scuff up the areas to be bonded with sandpaper, this gives the adhesive more surface area to bond to, and remember like painting the better the surface is prepped and cleaned the better the result.

 

[Wolf359]

We had one of those for a tenant - they called us saying the washer wasn’t spinning at high speed and making weird sounds. The newest Whirlpool/Maytag/Amana Vertical Modular Washer uses a sealed gear case, a plastic splutch with a high/low shift and a belt to drive the gear train. If a bearing or bushing wears out in the gear case, the whole thing is to replaced - you can’t simply open it up and tear it down like the old Whirlpool or Maytag direct drives.

That's why I like not including washer/dryer in a unit, let the tenants get their own so when they break it's their fault. Same thing if the hoses or washer leaks causing damage, then it's their fault. Of course you have to include them in higher end units though.

 

[2002 Maxima SE]

We have a 2010 Samsung Washer (WF210ANW) and Dryer (DV210AEW). Issues: The washer has rusted through the paint under the detergent drawer (removed and painted with rustoleum), the water pump recently gave up (replaced for $100 in parts) and the dryer belt gave up a few months ago ($15 parts). I'm hoping to get another 5+ more years out of both.

 

[Wolf359]

We have a 2010 Samsung Washer (WF210ANW) and Dryer (DV210AEW). Issues: The washer has rusted through the paint under the detergent drawer (removed and painted with rustoleum), the water pump recently gave up (replaced for $100 in parts) and the dryer belt gave up a few months ago ($15 parts). I'm hoping to get another 5+ more years out of both.

Ditto on Whirlpool here. Bought one in 2000 and still going. Haven't had to do any repairs to it except the lid switch went last year and now it looks like I need to replace the water inlet valves as the hot water filling is slow but I mostly use cold anyway so it doesn't matter as much.

 

[FordMan59]

I'd try to locate a used machine that I could buy the lid off of at a reasonable price. The motor went bad on my Maytag top loader about 5-6 years ago. Knowing new machines don't last like the older models I searched and found a guy here in town that deals in used appliances. He had a used motor. I gave $50 for the used motor and am still using the same machine which I think I bought new around 2005. Only other thing that's been replaced is the pump which I think was under $20 online. My son bought a new top loader in about 2011-2012 and it was replace a year or two back.

 

[gregk24]

There are epoxies made for MOST plastics. You can find them at walmart, HD, Lowes etc. It't very important to clean the area of super glue very well, acetone will soften super glue. For high stress areas I use a small amount of fiberglass cloth that is available where model airplanes are sold, if you go that route model airplane shops will have several specialy adhesives also. Just be prepared, specialty adhesives can be expensive. Another important note is that if the parts are ABS plastic you must use an adhesive rated for that type of plastic. You can also buy specialty plastic bonding adhesives at auto body supply shops. Finally scuff up the areas to be bonded with sandpaper, this gives the adhesive more surface area to bond to, and remember like painting the better the surface is prepped and cleaned the better the result.

The super glue is buried in between the plastic layers. Hard to describe, but it’s not retrievable. It’s stuck there. So if the other adhesive won’t adhere to the super glue then “oh well”.

 

[gregk24]

I'd try to locate a used machine that I could buy the lid off of at a reasonable price. The motor went bad on my Maytag top loader about 5-6 years ago. Knowing new machines don't last like the older models I searched and found a guy here in town that deals in used appliances. He had a used motor. I gave $50 for the used motor and am still using the same machine which I think I bought new around 2005. Only other thing that's been replaced is the pump which I think was under $20 online. My son bought a new top loader in about 2011-2012 and it was replace a year or two back.

These lids will all fail with time. It’s just a bad design. Buying a brand new lid would be the best option.

 

[Gimpy1]

The super glue is buried in between the plastic layers. Hard to describe, but it’s not retrievable. It’s stuck there. So if the other adhesive won’t adhere to the super glue then “oh well”.

Oh it will adhere to it but the weakest link is the super glue. An a cool trick with super glue is put a little baking soda on it, it reacts to release CO2 and instantly hardens it. Use a small amount because the reaction is exothermic