British Airways flight attendant AWOL - found unclothed and dancing in the business-class lav

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Wasn't aware the UK had a law on aircrew being unfit for duty. Another article described him as setting up a disco in the lav.
Metropolitan police were contacted around 9:30 a.m. “following the concern for welfare of a man on an inbound flight from San Francisco,” the police department told the Independent.​
“Officers arrested the man after he received medical attention. He was arrested on suspicion of being unfit for duty. He has since been released under investigation,” the police department said.​

Seems like a decent size in Club World on an A380.

 
If anyone has ever watched the YouTube channel 74 Gear Kelsey says that when he worked for a small commuter airline they frequented Las Vegas as a destination. One of the flight attendants would disappear for several hours on their overnight trip. Apparently she uh "entertained " clients on the strip as a side hustle. I think it was late 2023 early 2024 when a Jet Blue pilot Managed to drive himself to the airport, make it through TSA and into the cockpit where they were 5 minutes from shutting the door. TSA came onto the aircraft and apparently he was well over the legal limit.
 
If anyone has ever watched the YouTube channel 74 Gear Kelsey says that when he worked for a small commuter airline they frequented Las Vegas as a destination. One of the flight attendants would disappear for several hours on their overnight trip. Apparently she uh "entertained " clients on the strip as a side hustle. I think it was late 2023 early 2024 when a Jet Blue pilot Managed to drive himself to the airport, make it through TSA and into the cockpit where they were 5 minutes from shutting the door. TSA came onto the aircraft and apparently he was well over the legal limit.

Yeah I’ll watch 74 Gear. In this case I don’t believe the FA was entertaining anyone but himself. I suppose it could be like Iron Man where Tony Stark’s flight attendants did some entertainment.

At least the FAA seems to have an 8 hour rule for alcohol where it’s not allowed 8 hours before duty. I didn’t think there was a legal limit, but found it’s 0.04% BAC. I don’t know how that reconciles with 8 hours. But there’s a long list of what they can’t take, even off duty. I’m reading somewhere that the most common medication found in autopsies of pilots in fatal aircraft accidents is diphenhydramine (Benadryl). As someone who takes that occasionally for allergies, operating any kind of vehicle when medicated is not advisable. Everything just feels loopy, but it works great stopping sneezing and runny nose.
 
Yeah I’ll watch 74 Gear. In this case I don’t believe the FA was entertaining anyone but himself. I suppose it could be like Iron Man where Tony Stark’s flight attendants did some entertainment.

At least the FAA seems to have an 8 hour rule for alcohol where it’s not allowed 8 hours before duty. I didn’t think there was a legal limit, but found it’s 0.04% BAC. I don’t know how that reconciles with 8 hours. But there’s a long list of what they can’t take, even off duty. I’m reading somewhere that the most common medication found in autopsies of pilots in fatal aircraft accidents is diphenhydramine (Benadryl). As someone who takes that occasionally for allergies, operating any kind of vehicle when medicated is not advisable. Everything just feels loopy, but it works great stopping sneezing and runny nose.
I've heard that taking add/adhd medications can disqualify you from a commercial pilots license or job, plus a whole lot of other illnesses/conditions.
 
At least the FAA seems to have an 8 hour rule for alcohol where it’s not allowed 8 hours before duty. I didn’t think there was a legal limit, but found it’s 0.04% BAC.
When I worked in a steel mill we were subject to random urinalysis and breathalyzer tests. .04% BAC would get you sent home for the day and a written warning. .08% BAC would get you fired.
 
When I worked in a steel mill we were subject to random urinalysis and breathalyzer tests. .04% BAC would get you sent home for the day and a written warning. .08% BAC would get you fired.

8 hours since the last consumption of alcohol and 0.04% is actually specified in federal regulations. I can't really imagine anyone having consumed enough alcohol to still have 0.04% BAC after 8 hours would still be alive. But then again some people have ridiculous tolerance to alcohol.

But for diphenhydramine, the time is actually quite long. Apparently an FAA requirement for at least 60 hours since the last time it was taken. I still feel a bit loopy in the morning (apparently why Ambien is so popular as a sleep aid) but I don't find it so bad after a cup of coffee. But the FAA doesn't see it that way for commercial pilots.
 
When I worked in a steel mill we were subject to random urinalysis and breathalyzer tests. .04% BAC would get you sent home for the day and a written warning. .08% BAC would get you fired.
Well, first, this entire threat is about a flight attendant, and I have no idea what the flight attendant requirements are,

Both pilots and flight attendants are subject to random drug and alcohol screening. It’s part of the job. It can be when you report for duty or it can be after the flight is complet.

For pilots, the FAA requires a minimum of eight hours between the last consumption of alcohol and reporting for duty. Not the actual flight, but, the moment you step onto airport property.

The maximum alcohol level is 0.0. In any country.

Anything over zero is going to get you arrested, prosecuted, and quite likely, sentenced to hard time.

For example:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46388829

As an interesting sidenote to the above story, I was on a crew van in London about a month later. The van driver asked me if I had seen that news story, and I had not. The Van driver claimed that he was the one that had alerted authorities to the condition of this JAL pilot.

I have no way to determine the veracity of this van driver story.

However, I will say, that pilots are under scrutiny from everyone, the van driver, the security guard, the gate agent, literally everyone is watching us.
 
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Every time I pass through airport security, they get very close to my face and always say either “ good morning “ or “ how are you” and I am sure they are trained to try and detect any signs of impairment or smell of alcohol when I respond to them. Never encountered such a friendly airport staff group before.
 
I flew BA to London twice last year and didn't notice any shenanigans, but I wasn't checking all the lavatories, either. Going back in September and will be more diligent. :rolleyes:
 
The maximum alcohol level is 0.0. In any country.

Anything over zero is going to get you arrested, prosecuted, and quite likely, sentenced to hard time.

I looked it up and it’s 0.04 BAC with the FAA. Was rather surprised it wasn't 0.00 or maybe 0.02. I would guess many airlines would have zero tolerance.

property.​

§ 91.17 Alcohol or drugs.​

(a) No person may act or attempt to act as a crewmember of a civil aircraft—​
(1) Within 8 hours after the consumption of any alcoholic beverage;​
(2) While under the influence of alcohol;​
(3) While using any drug that affects the person's faculties in any way contrary to safety; or​
(4) While having an alcohol concentration of 0.04 or greater in a blood or breath specimen. Alcohol concentration means grams of alcohol per deciliter of blood or grams of alcohol per 210 liters of breath.​

Heard that after the unfortunate incidents in Scotland, United's policy increased to 12 hours.
 
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