Bought a new Mazda CX-5

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Originally Posted By: Nick R
And I don't plan on doing anything with it until I have it payed down to below trade in value.



Once again, that's the only way to drive up the cost of ownership of a new car. Trading it in too soon.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Yeah, like kkreit01 said, if you signed papers for a 72-month loan, make them honour it! If it's there in black-and-white, then you have ground to stand on.

Second life lesson you need to learn now, stand up for your rights - DO NOT let the bank force you into higher payments on this one - youmay have to go to court, but it will be worth it.

Don't back down - do it now, and you'll never develop a spine, and will do it all your life....


+11100! If you have time for hours of BITOG a week you have time to fight this. Even if it is as simple as making the monthly payment listed on YOUR contract and making THEM try and take YOU to court or other action.
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino


+11100! If you have time for hours of BITOG a week you have time to fight this.


Thats what I was thinking. Nick,you can't just roll over and give up when someone takes advantage of you like this.
 
WOW. IIRC, this seems to follow a similar pattern to the Focus with respect to the payment realization and subsequent used car inclination. Just as the best advice then imo was to hold on to the Focus, same goes for the CX-5 now. Hope you get it figured out.

Agree with others though, whether you keep the car or were going to pay it off early, the contract length and payment should be addressed. If you truely have the 72 months with corresponding payment in writing with your signature, then you should hold the responsible parties' feet to fire. It's a legal document and should be treated as such, period.
 
This is too funny. A third new car in as many years and you're already making plans for its replacement?
 
Oh what a surprise.

A 48 month loan is good less interest, its almost a normal 36 month car note! Since as you said your making so much, I'd just pay $1k a month on it and pay it off in a couple years.

Keep the Mazda, pay it off, drive it for 10 years, than buy something else. Anything else is just a waste of money, playing musical cars. As for not being comfortable with the wheel deal with it, people drove Model T's for years and did fine, so will you.

Sounds like you just want a new car every 6 months. Which is fine but unless you start making a ton of money your always going to be broke and struggling with that habit. I know people who do it, one day they wake up and their 50, rent, have nothing to their name, but they do have a nice shiny vehicle!

The people I do know that do play musical cars and are successful at it make a ton of money. But at that point your making so much that buying a car to them is about the same as the average person buying a sandwich.
 
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I can't really comment, because I think there is more to the story than he is able to tell us.

And I kind of have to laugh about those who are telling him to fight it. I'd be willing to be those have never tried it before either! A buddy of mine not only fought, but Wells Fargo handed him his behind, even though he was in the right. It ended up being an issue with the dealership faxing something, but WF grabbed a lawyer and nailed him for it. They even made him pay the court let costs as well, and would not let him out of the loan. It's about the money, and since they have so much of it, will fight to keep it too. Don't believe me? Before I left my apartment complex, I watched 7 cars get repo'd. And we're talking about a few of those people being barely a week late! I met the truck driver...and they no longer wait a while to see if you pay..they just take it back. (though more of it may have simply to do with the times)

These companies don't play....if they could find any loophole that Nick didn't see or the dealership didn't do,good luck. If I plan to buy/lease another car, I plan on reading EVERYTHING....


And Nick, just refi that though Pedfed or someone similar....
 
It sounds like Nick has made his mind up to ditch it, for whatever reason. He will not fight the loan issue because that is just another excuse to help him justify walking away from it.

I suspect that daves87rs is right stating that there is more to this story than Nick is willing to reveal here, and that's OK. Life throws curve balls at us and tends to crush our assumptions all the time. How does that saying go? "If you want to make god laugh, just tell him your plans."

Only a few weeks ago, it was all going so well though...
Originally Posted By: "Nick R"
The cruze I liked, but even from the word go it never felt "right". it's difficult to explain. When I sit in this car, and drive this car, it just feels "right" it takes me forever to find the comfortable seating position in the cruze. In the CX-5 it took me all of 10 seconds. It just feels "Right", if that makes sense.


Nick, all the best, buddy!
 
Originally Posted By: Cujet
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Should have just gone with a used car in the first place, it's far more practical. Yeah new cars are great, but I've finally seen the light- taking the new car depreciation hit is a real pain in the touchus.


I can make a very strong argument against the financial "soundness" of purchasing a used car. First off, you save nothing. The used car is pro-rated, by mile and time. Second, the used car is not "less expensive" to operate, it's slightly more initially and significantly more later on. Nor is a used car cheaper to finance. In fact, when you calculate the cost of "used" v "new" using real world "cost per mile" metrics, you will find that there is a maximum Delta of 5 cents per mile difference, and often, no difference. (real world cost per mile calculations include insurance, fuel costs, maintenance costs, capital costs, loan costs and so on)

Remember, if you plan on purchasing a "cheap" used vehicle to save money, you must also change class of car, often to something that does not fit your needs as well.

And, for goodness sake, don't get wrapped around the axle with terms like "depreciation" and "loss" and "upside-down loan value". The only way to make a new car more expensive is to trade it in quickly and let the dealer profit from your mistake.


Agreed. Nick over-extended himself thinking happy thoughts about paying it off sooner, but going with a longer loan because he doesnt have the discipline to pay it off on a reasonable term. Life catches up and things are too expensive. Who wants to be paying new car payments on a six year old car that is well used?

But on the flip side, used cars are not the great deals that some would make them out to be, as you mention (and we determined mathematically in another thread or two). Without financial discipline, real savings and using cash, Nick will just get caught in the same payment issues with used cars, only get hit even harder as a result because of the poorer deals.

Vanity isnt worth anything. Nobody deserves a single gadget on a car. Go buy an accent or rio or yaris with crank windows and MT and learn to drive it with a smile. Beats walking. Pay it cash or pay it on
Or... just be uncomfortable for a time, dump all the cash you have (no eating out, no beer, no computers, no goofing around), and pay it off, like by Christmas. Then start saving for the next car, sell this one private party in no rush when the right deal comes in, and then buy another more to your liking.

A used car isnt your salvation. Being disciplined and making sound purchasing choices is.
 
Good post, at the end of the day its all about cents per mile. A new car like Nick's can pay but you have to get your mileage out of it to make it so.

There is nothing really wrong with the Mazda, and no reason not to keep it. The loan thing is what it is, chalk it up to experience. Its simply a life lesson, like paying for college credit in another form.
 
JHZR2,

As always you give great financial advice. Nick should of just bought a $3500 Civic with roll up windows / manual trans and focus all his energy on his future career.

Why get into so much debt at such a young age ?????
 
Have you seen a $3500 Civic? If you can find one, it's a '96 with ~200K miles on it. I also highly doubt cars are getting repo'd with only being a week late on payments. Possibly if it was shady-dealer financed at 18% interest, but not a reputable bank.

I also saw my neighbor's car being repo'd several years ago. It was not a pretty sight. I was about ready to call the cops as I kept seeing this shady-looking tow truck circle our neighborhood several time. He was waiting for the moment the garage door came open. When it did, he had their Bimmer hooked up in < 1 min.

Anyway...best of luck Nick.
 
It takes a long time for them to repo a car.

Only exception is if you buy from one of those buy here pay here lots that deal with poor people. Than they will take it right back, heck at lot of those guys have a set of keys for every car they sell, and repo them 2-3 times.
 
My next door neighbor's daughter bought a 2002 Civic for $3500 and it only has 92K miles from Craigslist. Here in FL $3500 Civics are like ants... they are everywhere.

Any way, i kind of feel bad for Nick. Focus on college/career.

When I was a student at Duke I was driving a 1976 Nova, the un-click magnet.
 
Oh yeah.There is more going on here than I am willing to talk about, suffice it to say that it's for the best. Not anything I really want to get into, but I've discussed it with a few people, including a financial advisor through work and even she agrees with me on this.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure on what I'm gonna do. After I get this taken care of, and it's probably gonna be around tax return time, I'm going to look into getting a used Cavalier. Yes, I said it. I will probably look for a clean, 03-05 cavalier with fairly low miles. They are cheap, I'm familiar with the car, and I know that I like how they drive. Go ahead and laugh it up y'all.
 
I'd refi with a local credit union, and not a big bank. The CU has a vested interest in you paying them back, not in nickel/diming you with fees. Get the payoff amount and move the loan to a friendlier financial institution.

I'd pay off the Mazda, then sell it when it's convenient. Somebody will want it.

Still liking the Cruze here, especially the MPG. I imagine Nick might still be driving a Cruze if the MPG on the 2011's had been better.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick R


You see what I mean then. Everything combined, keeping it long term at this point seems unlikely. And the other real nitpick is the gas pedal. I just don't like pedals that are hinged at the bottom. Every car I've ever driven until now was hinged at the top, this one has the hinge at the bottom. It's slightly frustrating, because I previously would drive with only an inch or two of my foot on the very bottom of the pedal. I can't do that here, I have to use my whole foot practically, and it's just not what I prefer.


I may have missed a post. Did the dealer change the pedal after the test drive or after you drove off the lot?

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Originally Posted By: sciphi
I imagine Nick might still be driving a Cruze if the MPG on the 2011's had been better.

That's another thing I don't get about his CX-5 purchase. He complained about the Cruze's MPG, so he got a mini-ute which can't possibly be any better on MPG.
 
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