Boeing Starliner Launch Re-Scheduled

[Astro14]

Maybe he has ended up holding the bag for the previous misdeeds.

Actually, most of what is wrong with Boeing was created by McNerny, who was CEO from 2005-2015.

He had no prior airline experience, and came from Procter & Gamble and 3M.

He’s the one that pushed ahead development of the 737 Max, and cancel the program to build a new midsize airplane.

He’s the one that moved the headquarters out of Seattle, and he’s the one that created the negative corporate culture, and the focus on “shareholder value” over excellence in engineering.

Not realizing that excellence in engineering is what created the shareholder value in the first place.

However, four years is a long time in the life of a company, and when you’re in charge, you are ultimately accountable.

He took over while the 737 Max crisis was ongoing, so it wasn’t new. He had four years to make an impact and he failed to do so.

He was hired to make a difference and he failed to do so.

So, yes, he is responsible for a lot of Boeing‘s current failures because he was brought in to fix them.

 

[Astro14]

In the meantime, never forget to bring your overnight bag…

https://www.wsj.com/science/space-a...hnla03cjn3lh9u8&reflink=article_copyURL_share

 

[walterjay]

I figured that this would be the final decision. No one wants another human space tragedy.

 

[andrewg]

Boeing just can't create it's own break.

 

[dkryan]

I’m certain neither Butch nor Suni are thrilled with the news their “scheduled eight days in space” has now turned into eight months in space.

Granted, recent statements have them showing the “team effort” and “my brave face” attitude, but you’ve got to believe neither is too happy, especially since they launched with what was reported to be one change of clothing.

Kind of like Gilligan’s island. You know……..”set sail that day for a three hour tour…….” You know how long that boat ride lasted!

Except in this case, no Mary Ann or Ginger!!

 

[dkryan]

Boeing just can't create it's own break.

Actually, Boeing manages to break a lot of things………

 

[SC Maintenance]

Well maybe they can bring it back unmanned, resolve their issues, and send it back?

Definitely better safe than sorry.

 

[fdcg27]

This is a complete and utter failure on Boeing's part as well as yet one more embarrassment for the company.
How is it that what was once the premier aircraft designer and builder in the world can't even get a couple of derivatives of existing transports right, much less this spacecraft?
Boeing is running out of time to get things back in order. Too bad for us shareholders as well as all of those who work for Boeing and its many suppliers.
I feel for the two astronauts who arrived on this ship. Imagine the nightmare of an eight day turn morphing into eight months, and imagine what all that additional time in zero g and radiation exposure will do to their bodies, since neither the atmosphere nor the earth's magnetic field will protect them.

 

[paulo57509]

SpaceX to the rescue.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how...eing-starliner-spacex-crew-dragon-2024-8?op=1

According to a post on X, they're going to have to sit tight until Feb 2025.

 

[Astro14]

SpaceX to the rescue.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how...eing-starliner-spacex-crew-dragon-2024-8?op=1

According to a post on X, they're going to have to sit tight until Feb 2025.

Yes. And that was in the article I linked.

 

[y_p_w]

Yes. And that was in the article I linked.

Sure, if you have a subscription to the Wall Street Journal. But they don't even do limited free articles. There might be a "workaround" though. Nothing illegal and I think most people can do it with a new enough web browser, but I won't say here.

 

[Astro14]

Sure, if you have a subscription to the Wall Street Journal. But they don't even do limited free articles. There might be a "workaround" though. Nothing illegal and I think most people can do it with a new enough web browser, but I won't say here.

I’m sorry, didn’t realize there was a paywall.

I was going to post the article from the NYT - but that probably would have had the same result.

 

[jcy]

Yes. And that was in the article I linked.

Sure, if you have a subscription to the Wall Street Journal. But they don't even do limited free articles. There might be a "workaround" though. Nothing illegal and I think most people can do it with a new enough web browser, but I won't say here.

Here's a mirror link to get around the paywall:

https://archive.ph/HoVwP

 

[SumGuy]

If the decision to have SpaceX bring these people home was difficult because of the optics (what else accounts for dragging this out for so long?) this would be reason:

https://www.johnlocke.org/musk-slams-boeings-dei-obsession/

Boeing's HR policies didn't get much press back then, and still doesn't.

 

[ArrestMeRedZ]

I don't think you can solely blame DEI, nor can you put all the blame on the appointed head of the National Space Council that everybody seems to have forgot:

https://www.space.com/national-space-council-vp-kamala-harris

But I'm sure they have had an impact. You combine a bean counter leader of Boeing, fixed price contracts where non contributing deadweight is hired to meet quotas, and lack of competent government oversight at the top and you set up a situation ripe for failure.

I'd blame this one 90% on Boeing leadership, 5% on DEI and 5% government leadership. My percentages are admittedly completely made up numbers.

 

[SeaJay]

Here's a mirror link to get around the paywall:

https://archive.ph/HoVwP

“Our core value is safety, and it is our north star,” Nelson said.

Debatable.

 

[jcy]

I don't think you can solely blame DEI, nor can you put all the blame on the appointed head of the National Space Council that everybody seems to have forgot:

https://www.space.com/national-space-council-vp-kamala-harris

But I'm sure they have had an impact. You combine a bean counter leader of Boeing, fixed price contracts where non contributing deadweight is hired to meet quotas, and lack of competent government oversight at the top and you set up a situation ripe for failure.

I'd blame this one 90% on Boeing leadership, 5% on DEI and 5% government leadership. My percentages are admittedly completely made up numbers.

Who do you think gets pushed out to make way for the DEI hires? It's the old guys who collectively have most of the accumulated institutional knowledge, and the committment to a culture that revolves around quality instead of diversity audits. Same thing happened at Intel which is why they were stuck on 14nm transistors for 7 or 8 years

 

[Owen Lucas]

Who do you think gets pushed out to make way for the DEI hires? It's the old guys who collectively have most of the accumulated institutional knowledge, and the committment to a culture that revolves around quality instead of diversity audits. Same thing happened at Intel which is why they were stuck on 14nm transistors for 7 or 8 years

So the older guys went to SpaceX or just retired? The knowledge is worth something.

 

[ArrestMeRedZ]

Who do you think gets pushed out to make way for the DEI hires? It's the old guys who collectively have most of the accumulated institutional knowledge, and the committment to a culture that revolves around quality instead of diversity audits. Same thing happened at Intel which is why they were stuck on 14nm transistors for 7 or 8 years

I was not trying to support DEI. My point was with those jucy cost plus government contracts you can get away with keeping both competent staff and the useless quota hires on staff. Put in DEI with fixed price contracts and a bean counter CEO and you have what we have here.
I seem to remember the Justice Department going after Space X for not hiring enough foreigners. Funny how a CEO who believes in a meritocracy actually produces a fixed price product that works.

 

[TumblrDucks]

Wondering what cause SpaceX 8 months to get another dragon ready? Or this is just pure crew scheduling issue?