Boeing Starliner Launch Re-Scheduled

I hope I'll be forgiven for noting that this seems to be yet another chapter in Boeing's current malaise, in which this venerable and once highly respected firm can't seem to do anything right.
I doubt I'd be real happy about this unanticipated extended mission if I were the crew, or those already aboard the ISS and I think I'd be a little concerned about how capable this craft will be for reentry.
I remain hopeful that the problems are as minor as they're portrayed to be.
 
I hope I'll be forgiven for noting that this seems to be yet another chapter in Boeing's current malaise, in which this venerable and once highly respected firm can't seem to do anything right.
I doubt I'd be real happy about this unanticipated extended mission if I were the crew, or those already aboard the ISS and I think I'd be a little concerned about how capable this craft will be for reentry.
I remain hopeful that the problems are as minor as they're portrayed to be.
When Barry gets back, I’ll ask him about that. He was very positive about the spacecraft pre-launch, but reckon his position may have shifted a bit…
 
As I understand what is going on, they cannot come back the way the went. Boeing, it is said, had cost overruns and never finished the reentry software. So it's up to Musk or the Russians for a rescue?
I don’t think it’s an issue about never finishing the reentry software. I think it’s about rewriting the software to compensate for a couple of faulty attitude thrusters. They may not be happy with how the rewrite went, and they may not be confident they have complete attitude control on the spacecraft as a result.

I think, if it were my fragile pink little body inside that capsule, I would want absolute certainty that the software rewrite was good.
 
I don’t think it’s an issue about never finishing the reentry software. I think it’s about rewriting the software to compensate for a couple of faulty attitude thrusters. They may not be happy with how the rewrite went, and they may not be confident they have complete attitude control on the spacecraft as a result.

I think, if it were my fragile pink little body inside that capsule, I would want absolute certainty that the software rewrite was good.
Yeah, I'd find it hard to believe that NASA and Boeing undertook the launch with critical software not completed due to cost.
 
Boeing has other issues. Look who the past CEO, David Calhoun is and where he came from. Their failures are being highlighted for a reason. David Calhoun is being scrubbed from Boeing's web site.
 
I sincerely hope the Starliner makes it home safely at some point.

I have read however that further testing has shown it was a sealing issue around the the thrusters - they bulged from the heat or some such thing causing the issue. So there was disagreement between Boeing and Nasa regarding how big a deal it was. I read it in a materials article I cannot find now - but this article mentions it.

I hope they let the Engineers decide but either way it didn't sound like software. Perhaps there trying to compensate for the lower flow with software?

Plan B would be to have Spacex retrieve the astronauts, but that wouldn't be for 6 months and causes other logistical issues.

https://www.space.com/boeing-starli...hy CFT's,leading to thrusters shedding Teflon
 
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Boeing has other issues. Look who the past CEO, David Calhoun is and where he came from. Their failures are being highlighted for a reason. David Calhoun is being scrubbed from Boeing's web site.
All of these problems can be laid at far more than just one man's doorstep. In as much as simply firing the coach doesn't create a winning team from a losing one.
 
All of these problems can be laid at far more than just one man's doorstep. In as much as simply firing the coach doesn't create a winning team from a losing one.
Go team go. You are missing the idea that this is being done on purpose?
 
Boeing's purpose is to deliver money to their stockholders. Their only metric of CEO success is the stock price.
Yep - and clearly, he has been a terribly unsuccessful CEO. From a high of $445 to let’s see - $168 this week?

So, he has destroyed over $200 BILLION in shareholder value.

He will still be paid handsomely for epic failure, however, and therein lies the problem.
 
Yep - and clearly, he has been a terribly unsuccessful CEO. From a high of $445 to let’s see - $168 this week?

So, he has destroyed over $200 BILLION in shareholder value.

He will still be paid handsomely for epic failure, however, and therein lies the problem.
Yeah - not good numbers - I do think the media has been dishonest with one sided coverage - and since we have so many making money off of manipulation - there seems to be a “network” that certainly does not serve the flyers wanting honest reporting …
 
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Shareholders and the paying customers are of little interest to the vision (forced) of management nowadqays....
 
While I 100% agree CEO compensation is sort of bewildering, , there are many - including a judge - that decided Elon Musk was not worth $65B, even though it was directly tied to market cap. So when it goes the other direction many are not happy either.

You can please some of the people some of the time - and so on....
 
Boeing's purpose is to deliver money to their stockholders. Their only metric of CEO success is the stock price.
And this philosophy has led to Boeing's current problems.

Management would do well to study Quality Theory. A couple of basic points:

1. Focus on doing things right, rather than on immediate profits; good process throughout will result in a good product which will result in healthy profits down the road.

2. Don't worry about the next quarter's profits - look at making the company still viable in 15 years.
 
Yep - and clearly, he has been a terribly unsuccessful CEO. From a high of $445 to let’s see - $168 this week?

So, he has destroyed over $200 BILLION in shareholder value.

He will still be paid handsomely for epic failure, however, and therein lies the problem.
Maybe he has ended up holding the bag for the previous misdeeds.
 
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