BMW Oil Temperature Question

[edyvw]

I don't what?

Know that driving the same amount of miles in short and long distances does not equal the same wear.

 

[Nessism1]

Know that driving the same amount of miles in short and long distances does not equal the same wear.

What? This make no sense.

Start a engine cold. Go drive. Stop at 5 miles, or stop at 10 miles...or 20. 5 miles will have less wear. Are you suggesting otherwise? There is no way to avoid cold engine wear, other than maybe a block/oil pre warming device, and driving further, even if warm, doesn't somehow reduce the wear already incurred.

 

[edyvw]

What? This make no sense.

Start a engine cold. Go drive. Stop at 5 miles, or stop at 10 miles...or 20. 5 miles will have less wear. Are you suggesting otherwise? There is no way to avoid cold engine wear, other than maybe a block/oil pre warming device, and driving further, even if warm, doesn't somehow reduce the wear already incurred.

It is really not such difficult math.
Let's say you are doing UOA at 5k.
If you drive 5 miles to work, and 5 miles back. You made 10 miles a day and 2 cold starts. At 5k when you decided to do OCI, you will accumulate 1,000 cold starts.
If you drive 10 miles each way, that is 20 miles a day. At 5K when you decide to do UOA you accumulated 500 cold starts.

Not to mention that at 5 miles, the engine in question, N52, will not achieve operating optimal temperature. At 10 miles, it will, which results in less wear overall wear once you reach 5K or 7.5k or 10K whenever you decide to do UOA. For the same reason, doing 100mls one way and 100mls back will result in less wear and overall better condition of oil (bcs. that is the primary function of UOA), than doing 10 miles one way and 10 miles back.

 

[Nessism1]

It is really not such difficult math.
Let's say you are doing UOA at 5k.
If you drive 5 miles to work, and 5 miles back. You made 10 miles a day and 2 cold starts. At 5k when you decided to do OCI, you will accumulate 1,000 cold starts.
If you drive 10 miles each way, that is 20 miles a day. At 5K when you decide to do UOA you accumulated 500 cold starts.

Not to mention that at 5 miles, the engine in question, N52, will not achieve operating optimal temperature. At 10 miles, it will, which results in less wear overall wear once you reach 5K or 7.5k or 10K whenever you decide to do UOA. For the same reason, doing 100mls one way and 100mls back will result in less wear and overall better condition of oil (bcs. that is the primary function of UOA), than doing 10 miles one way and 10 miles back.

Why are you doing 5k oil changes if you only drive 10 miles per day? You should be doing, something like, 6 month oil changes. Severe duty.

 

[edyvw]

Why are you doing 5k oil changes if you only drive 10 miles per day? You should be doing, something like, 6 month oil changes. Severe duty.

OMG man. I don't do 10 miles a day.
The person you answered with "it does not make any sense," @GJM120 did UOA at the SAME mileage!
Do you actually understand now why his UOA with longer distances but same OCI, resulted in less wear? He had LOWER NUMBER of cold starts in the same amount of miles.

 

[Nessism1]

OMG man. I don't do 10 miles a day.
The person you answered with "it does not make any sense," @GJM120 did UOA at the SAME mileage!
Do you actually understand now why his UOA with longer distances but same OCI, resulted in less wear? He had LOWER NUMBER of cold starts in the same amount of miles.

Go back and READ.
"GJM120 said:
On my N52 powered car I had what I thought was a better UOA after avoiding short trips (mostly by going the long way to my destination)."

He suggested that going "the long way" reduces wear, which is wrong. Stop arguing.

 

[edyvw]

Go back and READ.
"GJM120 said:
On my N52 powered car I had what I thought was a better UOA after avoiding short trips (mostly by going the long way to my destination)."

He suggested that going "the long way" reduces wear, which is wrong. Stop arguing.

Listen, I have 8yrs old that I help with math every day. Not interested to work with another one.

 

[Jimmy_Russells]

Typical bitog

One guy arguing 100k miles with 10k starts will cause a lot of wear. The other guy arguing 10k starts at 50k miles is less wear than 10k starts at 100k miles. You’re both right and not even arguing over the same thing.

 

[edyvw]

Typical bitog

One guy arguing 100k miles with 10k starts will cause a lot of wear. The other guy arguing 10k starts at 50k miles is less wear than 10k starts at 100k miles. You’re both right and not even arguing over the same thing.

It cannot be the same thing if UOA is done in the same mileage, and one with more wear has more short trips over another one.
But I do agree about BITOG, there is always someone to parachute with something to feel better about himself.

 

[Sumboodie]

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No matter if it's an Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Mini, Porsche or VW.
I typically see 205 - 220°F during winter and 220 - 230°F during
summer for both coolant and oil.
88°C/190°C?
Common for shorter trips, but quite odd for longer distances.
88°C lead to shorter trips, maybe for 10 min for the drive will
result in higher water and fuel contamination to your motor
oil than it will able to lose during this too short period of time.
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My VW Jetta won't even read coolant temp in winter when it's cold out!