Anyone know a longer filter to replace the AA3614 or L10241. Also, a larger one to replace AA7317 or pl14610. Thanx
Bigger Filter for aa3614
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The AA3600 should be the longer version of the 3614. Depending on room, there's plenty of options for larger diameter filters. Loads of them. With the 7317 I believe that you need to go larger in diameter and a slightly different gasket size, iirc.
The AA3593a should be a larger diameter filter that will work in place of the AA7317, if that helps. I have used them interchangeably on Hondas, Acuras, Nissans, and others.
Hmm. I wa slooking for a slightly bigger one for a 05 camry. I think AA3600 would be to long and woulnt clear. Anything in between? Also, anything with a bigger diameter but not shorter that might work in place of AA7317? Thanx
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Actually, the AA3600 does fit on the camry. sweet. I usually do 5,000 miles chang intervals but I dont wnat to be as wasteful. since the filter cost the same price, I figured I might as well double the filter size. Would 2.5 quarts of supertech 5w30 and 2.5 qts of mobil 1 be sufficient for a 10,000 mile change? I was gonna try 5 of just regula castrol but i don't think it will last.
----Make------Stock------Oversize
Amsoil--------EAO57------EAO34
Fram---------PH3614-----PH3600
K&N---------HP-1002-----HP-2009
Mobil--------M1-102------M1-209
Napa----------1348---------1516
PureOne----PL10241----PL20195
Purolator----L10241------L20195
Wix------------51348-------51516
Amsoil--------EAO57------EAO34
Fram---------PH3614-----PH3600
K&N---------HP-1002-----HP-2009
Mobil--------M1-102------M1-209
Napa----------1348---------1516
PureOne----PL10241----PL20195
Purolator----L10241------L20195
Wix------------51348-------51516
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Also, anything with a bigger diameter but not shorter that might work in place of AA7317
Assuming the AA7317 is a clone of the PH7317, it should be ~3.5" long x 2.7" diam.
A WIX 51344/NAPA 1344 is 4" long x 3.25" diam.
Or, a 51334/1334 is 3.2" long x 3.25" diam. Nice to have options.
BTW - I'm assuming these are different applications - the 3600/3614 being 3/4"-16 thread, and the 7317/3593, 20x1.5mm. Probably being redundant here, but I have been under a vehicle a time or two trying to figure out why a filter wouldn't go on, then discover it was the wrong thread. (
Also, anything with a bigger diameter but not shorter that might work in place of AA7317
Assuming the AA7317 is a clone of the PH7317, it should be ~3.5" long x 2.7" diam.
A WIX 51344/NAPA 1344 is 4" long x 3.25" diam.
Or, a 51334/1334 is 3.2" long x 3.25" diam. Nice to have options.
BTW - I'm assuming these are different applications - the 3600/3614 being 3/4"-16 thread, and the 7317/3593, 20x1.5mm. Probably being redundant here, but I have been under a vehicle a time or two trying to figure out why a filter wouldn't go on, then discover it was the wrong thread. (
Rangerfan24,
I don't think I would extend my oil change out that far on the Camry unless you are really doing mostly longer trips with full engine warm-ups. I have seen some deals in the past at Advance Auto and AutoZone for 5 qts Mobil 1 EP and a Mobil 1 M1-209 oil filter for about $30 or $35. This oil is rated for 15k miles and could probably go at least your proposed 10k miles safely. I surely would not mix SuperTech and Mobil 1 period, or try to go 10k miles on that mix.
With longer trips-type driving, you could possibly go 10k miles safely on Pennzoil Platinum and say a PL20195 oil filter. Same possibly with the new Valvoline Synpower and a Wix 51516 oil filter. In addition to the mileage, limit yourself to 6 months or 12 months max on synthetic oil and filter.
Keep in mind, Toyota generally recommends 6 months or 5000 mile oil changes for their cars.
I don't think I would extend my oil change out that far on the Camry unless you are really doing mostly longer trips with full engine warm-ups. I have seen some deals in the past at Advance Auto and AutoZone for 5 qts Mobil 1 EP and a Mobil 1 M1-209 oil filter for about $30 or $35. This oil is rated for 15k miles and could probably go at least your proposed 10k miles safely. I surely would not mix SuperTech and Mobil 1 period, or try to go 10k miles on that mix.
With longer trips-type driving, you could possibly go 10k miles safely on Pennzoil Platinum and say a PL20195 oil filter. Same possibly with the new Valvoline Synpower and a Wix 51516 oil filter. In addition to the mileage, limit yourself to 6 months or 12 months max on synthetic oil and filter.
Keep in mind, Toyota generally recommends 6 months or 5000 mile oil changes for their cars.
Im in the northeast so I have a feleing our supertech is drive clean. Its def. mobil of some sort though.So i was thinking 2-3 quarts of M1EP and two supertech(driveclean).Is there really a worthy difference between AATG and regular purolator. People say AATG are low end. I cut open one a while back. Looked the same as a regular purolator, maybe with a few less pleats. The puroene has better media, but the whole ptfe gasket thing is unnecessary at least for our cars.The OEM filter that came on the car was a toyota purolator with a [censored] o ring thing.Thanx for all the advice. =)
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Wal-Mart dropped the ST 3950. Try a Purolator L10193. I think it will work.
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A good xref' list.
Does Mann make a filter in this size?
A good xref' list.
Does Mann make a filter in this size?
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Acheron2000
A good xref' list.
Does Mann make a filter in this size?
You could try your luck here http://www.germanfilters.com/xref_search.php
Acheron2000
A good xref' list.
Does Mann make a filter in this size?
You could try your luck here http://www.germanfilters.com/xref_search.php
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W71915 = Wix 51088 It's got a high bypass valve setting. Lots of other 3/4-16 thread filters from MANN ..most with the characteristic 30+ bypass valve rating of many German engines.
Here's what it looks like in a WIX.
Part Number: 51088
UPC Number: 765809510883
Principal Application: BMW (82-94), Mercedes-Benz (85-93)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.704
Outer Diameter Top: 2.983
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 30
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 280
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.740 2.370 0.275
Here's what it looks like in a WIX.
Part Number: 51088
UPC Number: 765809510883
Principal Application: BMW (82-94), Mercedes-Benz (85-93)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.704
Outer Diameter Top: 2.983
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 30
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 280
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.740 2.370 0.275
RWEST I couldn't get the xref to work for me.
Gary, thanks thats a wealth of info.
Actually I'm interested in the standard short filter. The Wix # 51348 is applicable. Have been using the Quaker State #3614.
Do you know a Mann part # that would be suitable?
Gary, thanks thats a wealth of info.
Actually I'm interested in the standard short filter. The Wix # 51348 is applicable. Have been using the Quaker State #3614.
Do you know a Mann part # that would be suitable?
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The AA3600 should be the longer version of the 3614.
Did the 3600 filter when I had my Saturn. Perfect replacement, holds about 1/2 qt more oil, too.
The AA3600 should be the longer version of the 3614.
Did the 3600 filter when I had my Saturn. Perfect replacement, holds about 1/2 qt more oil, too.
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The MANN W71220 should work in place of a Ph3614 in an engine that requires a higher bypass valve setting.
Part Number: 51288
UPC Number: 765809512887
Principal Application: Audi Quattro, 5000 Turbo (84-88) Turbo Filter
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.404
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 30
Burst Pressure-PSI: 310
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 10
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
PH3614 sized in WIX
Part Number: 51348
UPC Number: 765809513488
Principal Application: Various Chrysler/Jeep (82-09), Various GM, Saturn (85-07), Lexus (90-09), Saab (67-09), Suzuki (86-02), Toyota (88-09), Yugo (86-89), Harley-Davidson, Various Lawn&Garden, Farm Equip.
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.404
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=21/37
Burst Pressure-PSI: 275
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
Part Number: 51288
UPC Number: 765809512887
Principal Application: Audi Quattro, 5000 Turbo (84-88) Turbo Filter
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.404
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 30
Burst Pressure-PSI: 310
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 10
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
PH3614 sized in WIX
Part Number: 51348
UPC Number: 765809513488
Principal Application: Various Chrysler/Jeep (82-09), Various GM, Saturn (85-07), Lexus (90-09), Saab (67-09), Suzuki (86-02), Toyota (88-09), Yugo (86-89), Harley-Davidson, Various Lawn&Garden, Farm Equip.
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.404
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=21/37
Burst Pressure-PSI: 275
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
Thanks Gary.
Not quite sure I fully understand the By-Pass Valve Setting spec'.
Am I correct in assuming this is the minimum default pressure should the filter start to clog? I presume it has nothing to do with the maximum allowable pressure (nominally 90 psi) when it goes into by-pass?
The MANN Nominal Micron Rating of 10 is impressive. Does this spec' apply to all MANN filters?
Not quite sure I fully understand the By-Pass Valve Setting spec'.
Am I correct in assuming this is the minimum default pressure should the filter start to clog? I presume it has nothing to do with the maximum allowable pressure (nominally 90 psi) when it goes into by-pass?
The MANN Nominal Micron Rating of 10 is impressive. Does this spec' apply to all MANN filters?
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