Best ZF transmission oil for Honda Pilot touring 2017

[f355spider]

There is no dip stick in 2017 touring model

I'm not familiar with a Honda automatic transmission, but most have a fill and drain bolt. You put the car on a lift, open the fill bolt and fluid should drip out a bit. If not, it is likely underfilled. But please check the shop manual for the procedure to ensure the proper level.

On one of my BMWs, after a complete service, dropping the pan and changing the filter...every morning after, it was shifting hard when cold....but once warmed up (expansion) it would shift normally. I returned to the shop and sure enough, it was almost a liter low. The tech used a suction gun with the appropriate ZF fluid to top it up.

 

[4WD]

That's another possibility. I was thinking of using that for my Tiguan the next time. So far I've seen zero reason to use VW branded fluid, or some expensive European equivalent.

I have the new Valvoline multi in the 2017 Tahoe - shifting well …

 

[weasley]

Scroll down to #6 post on this link. And get ready for a shock. You will learn new stuff.

https://www.crvownersclub.com/threa...vt-fluid.237120/?post_id=1868331#post-1868331


Max life is not compatible, it is not approved by Honda for nothing. It is not approved by Toyota either. Please show the data where all the supposed compatible transmissions have given the approval. Doing so will void a warranty if you have one.

So Idemitsu make the Honda CVT oil. What has that got to do with the oil for a ZF step-auto transmission?

 

[millerbl00]

I really like the PENTOSIN ATF 9 in the ZF 9 Transmission. Got rid of 90% of the cold first rough shift.


OE REFERENCE NUMBERS/RECOMMENDATIONS
Make Reference Number
BMW 83222289720 (ATF3+)
Honda 08200-9017
Honda ATF Type 3.1
ZF AA01 500 001
APPROVALS/SPECIFICATIONS
Organization Name Specification Met
Asian Vehicles JASO M315 TYPE 1A-LV



DESCRIPTIONPentosin ATF 9 has been specially developed with reduced viscosity to optimize the performance of latest generation 8 and 9-speed ZF automatic transmissions. Due to the individual design and technical requirements each transmission needs to achieve, it is essential the correct ATF is specified in order to ensure the transmission performs to its potential, providing efficient and reliable operation throughout its lifetime. Pentosin ATF 9 has been developed to deliver outstanding friction control to ensure excellent shifting performance. It also provides ultimate wear protection and anti-shudder performance

 

[Marcozi]

Do I have to get it scanned for the code?

I recommend it.

 

[Exhaustgases]

So Idemitsu make the Honda CVT oil. What has that got to do with the oil for a ZF step-auto transmission?

That is for the person that said they did not make it for Honda.
I would say if the ZF is in a german car then shell would make the fluid.

If a ZF is made for a Honda then Honda specifies the friction materials etc. so then Honda fluid is likely used, unless it is all ZF spec then, ZF would spec the fluid and then sold to Honda to put their label on the fluid bottles.

 

[Exhaustgases]

Idemitsu may very well make the fluid for Honda but that doesn’t make aftermarket Idemitsu the same fluid. The aftermarket fluid isn’t approved fluid either.

Maxlife says it’s compatible with ZF 8 and ZF 9 transmissions. And no it won’t invalidate your warranty unless it causes damage, which it won’t.

Funny stuff, Idemitsu is a manufacture not some aftermarket. Just go to their site and learn more. Geesh.

 

[kschachn]

Funny stuff, Idemitsu is a manufacture not some aftermarket. Just go to their site and learn more. Geesh.

You keep telling me to learn more on this topic, but I don't think it is me that needs to learn.

 

[kschachn]

That is for the person that said they did not make it for Honda.
I would say if the ZF is in a german car then shell would make the fluid.

If a ZF is made for a Honda then Honda specifies the friction materials etc. so then Honda fluid is likely used, unless it is all ZF spec then, ZF would spec the fluid and then sold to Honda to put their label on the fluid bottles.

Who in this thread said that Idemitsu didn't make the Honda branded fluid?

And that part about the friction materials, did you just make that up out of nowhere?

 

[weasley]

That is for the person that said they did not make it for Honda.
I would say if the ZF is in a german car then shell would make the fluid.

If a ZF is made for a Honda then Honda specifies the friction materials etc. so then Honda fluid is likely used, unless it is all ZF spec then, ZF would spec the fluid and then sold to Honda to put their label on the fluid bottles.

ZF supply the transmissions to Honda. It'll be made to Honda's specification but ZF are the transmission experts and will make it how they need to. Just like OEMs (usually) don't tell the oil companies what to put in the oil, just how the oil needs to perform.

The ZF transmission will likely be largely the same as transmissions supplied to other OEMs, with ECU programming and mounting hardware the main difference. There's a possibility that the transmissions are supplied wet anyway, so filled by ZF. If so, they will not have a different fluid for each OEM they supply.

 

[Revving2Redline]

PhillipsConoco makes Honda fluids, I use Redline because its better performance especially from the CVT Fluid and the cost to use it or the oem is almost parallel in cost.

https://www.phillips66.com/newsroom/red-line-oil-puts-its-muscle-behind-muscle-cars/

 

[Exhaustgases]

PhillipsConoco makes Honda fluids, I use Redline because its better performance especially from the CVT Fluid and the cost to use it or the oem is almost parallel in cost.

https://www.phillips66.com/newsroom/red-line-oil-puts-its-muscle-behind-muscle-cars/

And prove they do. I proved it is Idemitsu.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

That is for the person that said they did not make it for Honda.
I would say if the ZF is in a german car then shell would make the fluid.

If a ZF is made for a Honda then Honda specifies the friction materials etc. so then Honda fluid is likely used, unless it is all ZF spec then, ZF would spec the fluid and then sold to Honda to put their label on the fluid bottles.

Shell ML12108