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Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
ive had thai food ive just never seen an ocean or mountain lol. i like oregon a lot but im not sure how practical it is. indiana is ok


I HIGHLY DOUBT you have what we considered real Thai food where you are.

When I travel to Florida, I was shocked that they have their own definition of chow mein vs the rest of the world, let alone the rest of the US (i.e. Virginia).

p.s. the real Chinese food is not greasy, it got Americanized and turn obese.
 
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Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
i would love to be near an ocean but is there a such thing as ocean and low cost of living


There's near ocean, and there's resort town. Closer to ocean means you get a mild climate that is not super dry and hot in the summer and freezing cold in the winter. You do not need to live with an ocean view or a light house in front of your window to experience it.

I'd imagine Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama shouldn't be too expensive.
 
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
i would love to be near an ocean but is there a such thing as ocean and low cost of living


There's near ocean, and there's resort town. Closer to ocean means you get a mild climate that is not super dry and hot in the summer and freezing cold in the winter. You do not need to live with an ocean view or a light house in front of your window to experience it.

I'd imagine Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama shouldn't be too expensive.


But very, very hot, and subject to hurricanes. Cost of living isn't bad at all. I've lived in the deep South all my life (New Orleans, Mobile, and now Atlanta area for 35 yr). If you don't like heat, it's not your place. If you like conservative, you'll be at home
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Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
AHHA anyone know anything about asheville NC? i like what ive seen


Asheville is really nice. It's been called "Berkeley in the Mountains" as it's very laid back, and very liberal. However, get just outside of the city and it's rural/mountainous North Carolina, and thus very conservative.

BTW, Subaru appears to be the National Car of Asheville
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That to say, a 4wd is actually helpful in the winter months.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
well i really dont want to get into it but since you asked. high taxation the fact that they basically hide behind america and the healthcare just everything imo canada is a liberals paradise and im exactly the opposite of that i like my gun rights and my freedoms and cananda likes govt thats how i see it.


Alberta only has a 5% total sales tax, poorer people pay lower income tax, and there are a wealth of social services. It might not be as awful to actually live there as you think. How are they hiding behind America? They are just as much of a part of this continent as the US. Maybe you mean they are less "'MURICAN!!!!"
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
AHHA anyone know anything about asheville NC? i like what ive seen


It's a college town and tourist town, and very liberal. Probably the most liberal area in NC behind Chapel Hill/Carrboro. It's expensive to live in Asheville, and most jobs will be in the service industry.

I hope you're planning on finding the job before you move to one of these places because if not you might be in for a lot of disappointment.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
i would love to be near an ocean but is there a such thing as ocean and low cost of living


Try Maine well above Portland.I believe all the money in Maine is between where I live on and a bit north of Portland. The rest of state not so much there.
 
I think the conservative vs liberal thing is stupid.

Why limit exposing yourself to broader ideas and staying close minded. I happen to be left leaning but attended a neighbors party and met the hardcore right and got along fine. I actually met Kelly Ayotte (R-Senator) who is rumored to be Romney's running mate. Actually some folks there hooked my up with tickets to a Romney event locally. In the same week I was able to attend an Obama nearby visit this past week.

Interesting to say the least to meet the real lefties and the real rights.
 
Vermont. You can concealed-carry without a permit. Lake Champlaign. You can get a 1/10 acre parcel on the side of a hill that is slowly sliding down that hill. And a nice view of the other hill.

If you really love the ocean, get a job aboard a fishing vessel. Go do the crab thing in alaska or something while you're still young. You can really focus on what you're doing when you can't leave the boat.
 
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
A life long NH resident bashing MA is nothing new. Hows your property taxes up there with the (your words) "massive budget deficits"? To suggest property taxes are more in MA vs NH is utterly false, and you know it. Per 1,000 is way more up there. Its basically your only state revenue. Your real estate has far less valuation than MA, so property taxes seem smaller on paper. Because of the low valuation to its primary revenue, your state is sinking in debt.

Whats odd in your response is you praise the lack of income and sales tax, but condemn it for (your words) massive budget deficits.

Southern NH is mostly Ma residents that migrated north for a cheap house, but migrate south to work every day. Yeah income tax, but higher pay.

To be clear, not saying either state is better than the other. I shop in southern NH
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Out of the two I choose Maine!

PS: Not going politico here, don't want to. But it should be noted we are quickly becoming Independents!


A MA resident being offended because a NH resident points out what a screwed up state MA is also is nothing new. MA becoming Independant? HUH? Man you crack me up.
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Your complete lack of comprehension when reading my post is mind numbing. Where to begin?????

Property taxes are very high in NH and I never said otherwise. NEVER said MA property taxes were higher than NH either. I said what my Sister pays for taxes in MA( income, property, and sales )is staggering. THAT is what I said. It isn't even close to the same amount paid in TOTAL taxes when you compare MA's property/income/sales to NH's VERY HIGH( happy now? )property tax. At least when you compare based on the same homes and income levels.

If you compare my Sister's property and income tax from MA to what she would have paid in my town in NH in property tax( even with my town's ridiculous p/$1000 tax rate )it is not even close. Her tax burden in NH would literally be thousands of dollars less. That does not even take into account the sales tax she pays in MA that she would not have to pay here.

Property values being lower in NH is incorrect if made as a blanket statement. If my Sister's house was in my town( pretty affluent town )it would be evaluated/sold higher than in her town(MA). Not even close. If it was located up North in less developed areas you would be correct. Southern, NH property values however are not less than MA on the whole. Just false.

Your statement that people move to NH for cheaper property but work in MA for better pay is just not true as a blanket statement. It depends on where they move and what the job is. Also, it does not take into account those who move purposely to escape the state's laws and tax burden but keep their MA job until they find a new one elsewhere.

I did NOT praise the lack of a sales/income tax and then condemn the lack of them for huge budget deficits. Those were not MY words they are YOURS! How you got that is beyond me as my comments about the attempts to implement those taxes came under the section where I list the negative things that have happened due to the shift in politics here ?

I am AGAINST a sales/income tax 100%. I clearly pointed out that we used to break even or even have a budget surplus in years past with JUST property taxes. Our deficits have nothing to do with not adding income and/or sales taxes. It is all about spending more than is taken in. That is a problem from politics to personal.

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NH Hemi

I agree with your observations. I lived in MA and couldnt stand
the fees, regulations, taxes etc. Moved to Maine coast, taxes a little cheaper and people here are pushing back hard against the regs, taxes etc.

NH's problem is the influx of MA residents wanting all the freebies, big government and waste and higher taxes needed to support it.

I think most states would do well to model their state to NH circa 1990 or so, efficient gov, good schools, decisions made at Local level, great quality of life, no state income tax, no sales tax.
 
No offense, chevyboy, I enjoy a lot of your posting, but you really make yourself sound like a classic, close-minded, southern hick.

...and that's coming from a very conservative person as well!
 
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
LeakySeals said:
I am AGAINST a sales/income tax 100%. I clearly pointed out that we used to break even or even have a budget surplus in years past with JUST property taxes. Our deficits have nothing to do with not adding income and/or sales taxes. It is all about spending more than is taken in. That is a problem from politics to personal.

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Part of revenue issue is the loss of decent business in NH to other states. Businesses were attracted to NH at one point the state spending was in check with what came. The business left and spending was still in place causing a deficit.

In terms of tech you cannot attract top talent to the area as the pool of top tier folks is around Boston in New England at least. I know the goojobs and moved to MA or CA to get the talent tech companies that left with their high paying jobs.

This point lingers on to OP, move to an area that is hot bed for your career while young. Establish yourself and then settle somewhere.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
No offense, chevyboy, I enjoy a lot of your posting, but you really make yourself sound like a classic, close-minded, southern hick.

...and that's coming from a very conservative person as well!


and you sound stupid for saying that. no offense. how am i close minded? i grew up in a family who was as left as could be and i realized that's not who i am. i am very very conservative. i don't like Canada because its very left leaning. and that's not who i am. how is being against something being closed minded? i know both sides i learned and i figured out i believe in hard work and very limited govt. i don't like regulation or hand outs. i like all sorts of foods and activities but really do not want to live next to it all. im not a big city guy. im not close minded at all i just know who i am and i know what i want. i don't want to move somewhere to experience a completely different culture. that's what vacations are for. im very open minded but i dont want to live somewhere where the govt has a stranglehold on the people. im just a simple guy who wants a simple place to live not to much riff raff and what have you.
 
Well...fair enough, I can respect that.

And yes, Canada IS very left-leaning...even our 'conservative' govt. is very left-leaning.

Thing to keep in mind is that no matter where you go, the govt. has a pretty close hand on what is going on...big govt. is the way of the world, like it or not!

Let me ask you this, why do you want to move so desparately? Isn't Missouri a very conservative state in the US?
 
I wouldnt make that statement, have you scene all the For Lease signs on 128 or 495? I know a lot of folks with tech backgrounds in and around Boston and many jobs are leavingo r have left.
MA has driven most of its high tech manufacturing out(save some medical) of state or off shore. In some cases it is corp decisions but in many cases it is simply over regulation by the arrogant crowd on beacon hill.

Originally Posted By: rjundi
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
LeakySeals said:
I am AGAINST a sales/income tax 100%. I clearly pointed out that we used to break even or even have a budget surplus in years past with JUST property taxes. Our deficits have nothing to do with not adding income and/or sales taxes. It is all about spending more than is taken in. That is a problem from politics to personal.

Wow!
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Part of revenue issue is the loss of decent business in NH to other states. Businesses were attracted to NH at one point the state spending was in check with what came. The business left and spending was still in place causing a deficit.

In terms of tech you cannot attract top talent to the area as the pool of top tier folks is around Boston in New England at least. I know the goojobs and moved to MA or CA to get the talent tech companies that left with their high paying jobs.

This point lingers on to OP, move to an area that is hot bed for your career while young. Establish yourself and then settle somewhere.
 
Chevyboy.....you should do some internet searches of areas you think might be desirable for you in terms of climate (politically, culturally, and weather wise). Then, just go visit. Take a few trips to check out the areas. I would never make a major move based only on the opinions of others. If you've not spent much time in the western half of the country (it's much different in atmosphere than the east) you should certainly do so. I've mostly lived in the west but I have spent a lot of time in various parts of the east. I learned from those visits that I do not feel at home in most places east of South Dakota. Just my preference. You may come out west and take a look at things and find that it's just not for you.
It's a big country.....go check it out.
 
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