The Ford Explorer ST is easily a better SUV than anything Toyota makes except for resale value. Its also not a total pud.
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I don’t know which but I wouldn’t be jostling a hybrid around for even light off road. Batteries, electronics, and vibrations don’t mix well. For anything off road Get a gasser whatever it is.
Toyota's off road specific BOF 4x4 vehicles like the 4Runner (upper trims), Tacoma (upper trims), Land Cruiser, and LX700h (300 series land cruiser) are all hybrids.
For unibody construction with very light off road you may want to consider a Subaru of some sort.
I won't throw all Toyota's under the bus, but it seems they have some trouble with their first year new models in the past few years. Toyota used to be one of the rare brands that got almost everything right from the start of a new design, but it seems not so much lately...
Anyways, you are never buying the brand, you are always buying a specific model and year, so it still pays to do your research on that basis, as all manufacturers screw up once in a while.
Ford managed to screw up Toyota's planetary gear CVT for a few years, which is impressive!
Like I said, people are slow to accept change. Consumer reports lists the explorer at a 68 for reliability, and the Toyota Sequoia at 59. Lexus RX is 67. Lexus GX, 65. Toyota Corolla Cross, 66. But again, you said "reputation ", which is true. Because as you note, people lack objectivity.
Yeah, it's a 20 year old thing for them. And no, it didnt, but the fact that they mucked it up was frustrating.
Well, here's a few that aren't.
https://driving.ca/features/mainten...vision estimates that,16 million) of this sum.
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Same owners who drive 65mph in left lane in 75mph speed zone. Then enter construction zone where speed limit is 45mph, but they keep driving 65mph because they generally lack any situational awareness. That sums up those owners.
My neighbor is that owner. Her Sienna was falling apart and on my question how is her car (trying to start conversation with her, so I can tell her to go fix it and doesn’t kill herself or someone else) she said: “best car ever, never had an issue.”
So yeah, when you don’t acknowledge problems, it is most reliable car.
To this day bunch of mechanics recommend “anything Toyota,” while average Tundra/Sequoia makes 5,000mls before engine replacement.
What kills your arguement is this truth: Ford LOST over $1 BILLION from Explorer warranty claims. Only a fool would by a Ford over a Toyota.
- In 2023, Ford faced around $1.9 billion in excess warranty costs company‑wide—due to quality issues and delayed product launches. That includes multiple models, not exclusively the Explorer .
- In Q2 2024, the company spent roughly $2.3 billion on warranty and recall expenses broadly, with impacts from pandemic-era production issues—again across many model lines
Your responses are petty, silly, and say more about you than Toyota. Sure, Toyota has had a bad run of news regarding a few models, and engines, but their overall catalog of vehicles is the envy of all it's competitors...the sales numbers prove this.
