Beheaded American Video Very Graphic

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I downloaded that video and I watched it. But for whatever reason (maybe just on my machine) it was really distorted near the end. About the only clear thing I saw at the end was the guy holding Berg's head in his hand. It was so distorted and blurry that it was kind of hard to tell if there was enough blood like there should have been. But to me it did seem like there was not enough blood. There is a huge blood supply to the brain and cutting somebody's head off using a knife would be messy. Sorry, not trying to be graphic.

Another thing that was strange was one moment Berg is sitting in a chair and the next he is sitting on the floor with the five guys behind him. Berg did not look too alarmed-like he was totally unaware that anything was going to happen.
 
"What do you think of the Neturei Karta? They also do not believe in Israels right to exist."
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When they start killing as terrorists I'll have more to say about them.
 
Bottom line is they found the guy's body and the head had been cut off. They could have identified the body with fingerprints, etc. So the guys head was cut off. Doctors could probably tell how the head was removed. So the video is probably accurate.

And the CIA or whoever is supposed to have made a voice match with that terrorist guy (not sure how to spell his name).

Far as I can tell it is mostly the Moslem extremists who are causing problems in the world today. I have not heard much about the IRA for a while. I still don't know how anybody could justify all of this in the name of God.
 
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Durr,
as long as we don't blur the line between the people who carried out this attrocity and a country full of people (or the balance of an entire religion) who did not carry out this attrocity.
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Good point Shannow!

Now, why is it that all these terrorists happen to be Muslims! The only Christians that bomb people (their own people) is the IRA. Most terrorists groups out there are muslims.
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Last_Z,
one of the first suicide bombers was Loula Abboud, a 18 year old secular-middle class girl from a Christian background.

The Tamil Tigers have the record for the greatest number of suicide attackes, at 75 since 1980. They are a Marxist-Leninist group of Hindu background.

The IRA reportedly didn't use suicide attacks as they thought that it was "against their culture, that their people would turn against them. Hunger Strikes were the furthest they could go". (That and bombing civilians
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So it's clearly not just a Muslim issue.
 
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Originally posted by Last_Z:

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Originally posted by Shannow:
Durr,
as long as we don't blur the line between the people who carried out this attrocity and a country full of people (or the balance of an entire religion) who did not carry out this attrocity.
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Good point Shannow!

Now, why is it that all these terrorists happen to be Muslims! The only Christians that bomb people (their own people) is the IRA. Most terrorists groups out there are muslims.
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Not true - the Red Brigade terrorized Italy for decades and the uprisings in the former Soviet republics are not all non-Christian in nature. There are many non muslim terrorist groups operating in Japan.

Terrorism is not purely religious - for example, think of the anti-government gangs and mobs (SLA, McVeigh, the Unabomber, etc.) that have operated in the US and have used the same tactics.
 
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Now, why is it that all these terrorists happen to be Muslims!
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Far as I can tell it is mostly the Moslem extremists who are causing problems in the world today.
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Muslims ..more typically Arab extremists, are the root of most terrorism. The fact that they (Muslims) typically have a rotten life ..in the full view of an implanted thriving jewish state AND supply the secular world with what makes it so great is more than some can tolerate.

The impotent always seek power. You see it in the banana republics all the time. The revolutionary is fighting a truely oppressive situation. In the course of the conflict ..they have to employ savage and ruthless techniques to prevail. In the course of this "liberation" ..they lose their civility. When they become the new leader ....they have nothing left to draw upon except the proven techniques that got them to power. The cycle continues.

Right or wrong....as long as you have a vast majority of people sucking canal water for a life ..you ARE going to have this sort of behavior. You can blame this and that and say that most of it is their own fault ....and you'll still end up with the exact same behavior.

Why do you think Japan is so peaceful ..Germany(and Europe at large)...South Korea? Most of these nations/regions have been at war for thousands of years ...

It's is simply because they've been given alternatives and now have something to lose. Not many Muslim populations can say the same. Aside from GW ...I doubt that any modern industrial nation would bother to go and fight an offensive war today. It just doesn't pay. They've got it too good to covet another nation's resources and are too busy pursuing more profitable enterprises with populations that are employed, housed, fed, and educated.


Back on topic..

These extremist thugs need to die in the most uneventful manner. It would only serve our egos to actually bring them to trial or kill them in some savage fire fight. They would then become valiant martyrs in the fight against the evil western/zionist war machine.

As much as I'd love to give them a thorough stomping before slitting their throats in the most agonizing manner possible (some of you will see the paradox there - I would become more akin to my enemy - losing my "civility")....I'm hoping that they all step on rusty nails.
 
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So it's clearly not just a Muslim issue.
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Most ALL non-Muslim terrorist groups keep it local as they have a specific cause, which is typically political. The Palastinian vs. Isreal is a local issue, and they keep it mostly local. However, Al Quida, and a few others, go abroad with their terror.

Can anyone think of an airliner that has been brought down by a non-Muslim terror group?

Also, McVeigh was NOT part of a terror group. He was a stand alone nut case. No religion. No mission. He simply hated the govt., and was not smart enough to realize that most of the people in that building had nothing to do with govt policies. He killed mostly administative people, and a large number of children.

There is simply no defending terrorists, which is what further angers Americans as so many Muslims think the terror actions are justified do to US Foreign policy. Thing is, when asked what about US foreigh they have issues with, all they can say is support for Isreal. Well, the US supports a number of Muslim countries, including Egtyp and Jordan.

I hope the US NEVER caves in to these cowards.
 
there are two things i find unusual about this video. one the time frame as the subject is being grabbed by his hair and made to lie on his side to be beheaded the clock on the video says 2:44 11 immediately as he is on his side the clock shows 13:45 47. that is approx. 11:01 36. if there is an 11 hour gap why are we made to believe this all took place at once? also there is no blood on the wall that the subject is so close to as he is being beheaded. if you sever someone's jugular and carotid arteries blood spews and gushes out. but the video is poorly done.
 
the response from alan on the 17th of may is not his. he was showing me the video and i made the response.
 
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if there is an 11 hour gap why are we made to believe this all took place at once?
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Two cameras ...different clock settings on each. No substantial gaps in the same camera. They took a break in the video to sever his spine. Apparently it was not as easy as they thought it would be. So they turned off the cameras so they could "stage" the holding of the head in a more impressive manner.
 
No ..I'm saying that they cut his throat ..found it harder to remove his head than anticipated ...stopped taping ...set up the "scene" and continued taping.

Two cameras ..edited footage. My kids can do it..surely they can.
 
i find hard to believe there are two different cameras. there is no variations in the filming it's not lighter or darker. the focus is the same and the timer clock is in the same place. you are saying they stopped to sever his spine before they cut his head off to make it easier. i think they stopped because he died before they could cut off his head. they put the recorder down still running trying to figure out what to do. 11 hours later(after staging how they where going to sever the head) they put another tape in started where they left off not realizing that the timer was different. the lack of blood, no screaming for his life or movement after he was placed on his side seems like he was already dead or a very complacent participant.
 
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