I think the root problem is "religion". I know that is not going to be a popular statement but I think if you look at history that it is a true statement. I believe in God but I don't believe in "religion". It seems to keep people from thinking for themselves. I'm not singling out any one religion they all do it, again look at history. More human beings have been killed in the name of God by people acting out their perverted religious beliefs then by any other means. I am glad that I have my own personal relationship with God without putting a religion inbetween that relationship or having a religion interpert what my thoughts and beliefs should be. In the middle east these radical religious leaders are creating terrorists and we are accused of being agains't Islam when we try stop this behavior, because we are considered a Christian nation. I think we all understand the problem. Now how long until this turns into the worlds largest religious war???
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Oh my god, that was much worse than I expected. I thought it would be something quick and painless. That poor sole suffered at the hands of those those sick bastards.
Folks, think twice about watching this. It is very disturbing.
Folks, think twice about watching this. It is very disturbing.
I dont care anymore, **** PC, **** Al Qaeda, **** anyone who doesn't comdemn stuff like that. You are one sick **********er if you don't condemn that. Sure rape and sodomy are bad, but they have their lives at least. This guy just got his head hacked off with a machete. Nuke em, nuke em all. Rip their b**** off and feed them to them. I don't care anymore..
[ May 13, 2004, 10:26 PM: Message edited by: 59 Vetteman ]
[ May 13, 2004, 10:26 PM: Message edited by: 59 Vetteman ]
I'm with ya
Prepare for thread to be deleted though...
[ May 13, 2004, 09:52 PM: Message edited by: Jelly ]
well, whatever, ive said my peace. I'll be leaving for boot camp in about 3 weeks then its off to Charleston SC for 2 years of schooling. Then most likely off to a submarine. Sometimes, I wish I would have gone through with the Army WO Pilot program simply so I could engage the pieces of **** that do this...
The pure hatered and intolerance demonstrated by some off you is sickening. Yes, it was a violent and sickening act. But, to wish death on an entire race because of this incident is genocide. I really feel sorry for a lot of you.
I didn't watch it but can you imagine if his brother, sister or parent watched it? If it were my kid, I think something would snap in my head and I would never be the same again.
They think that we, that is non-muslims, are the devil and it is not a sin to slay the devil. We the U.S. are only their first target, if they can defeat us the greatest military power on earth, then they will own the world. They defeated Russia with our help in the sandbox. Do not underestimate them, they are educated, we taught them, they are armed, we armed them, they believe in their cause. If the non-muslim world is not willing to fight to the end then we should all buy a copy of the quran and start converting.
ScottP, so tolerance now means accepting beheading? I feel sorry for you that are so numb...so numbly inhuman. Those guys should die. No trial. No hesitation. Anybody getting in the way, should die. We aren't talking an entire religion, race or country...just anyone that supports that scum. Anyone remotely supporting Bin Laden...yes that means some in Saudi Arabia.
I still havn't seen the whole video but I did notice something weird about it. Berg is talking in a chair and then there is a cut to where he is sitting down. While watching this I got the feeling I was watching an episode of South Park with respect to the way the head bobbed up and down on Berg and seemed to be transposed over someone elses body. Sort of like a bad cut and paste job of trick photography. The video looks doctored up. That may not be Berg losing his head at all. I would like to see the whole video complete with sound so I can better judge what I am looking at.
BTW. It seems that Berg was somehow involved with Zaccarious Mousoui .sp. See the following video.
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/videoplayer/newVid/framesource2.html?clip=/media/2004/05/13/video617380.rm&sec=201&vidId=201&title=2$@$Terrorists$@$Linked$@$To$@$Berg&hitboxMLC=natio nal
Everything about this is strange.
[ May 14, 2004, 12:26 AM: Message edited by: wulimaster ]
BTW. It seems that Berg was somehow involved with Zaccarious Mousoui .sp. See the following video.
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/videoplayer/newVid/framesource2.html?clip=/media/2004/05/13/video617380.rm&sec=201&vidId=201&title=2$@$Terrorists$@$Linked$@$To$@$Berg&hitboxMLC=natio nal
Everything about this is strange.
[ May 14, 2004, 12:26 AM: Message edited by: wulimaster ]
For me the video was very distorted and I could not see exactly what happened. Maybe it was just something involving my internet connection or whatever, but the video was not clear for me.
But there was definitely something very strange about this Berg guy. The guy who apparently wanted to be the '20th hijacker,' who is mentioned in the post above, used Berg's email address while in college. How weird of a coincidence is that? The FBI interviewed Berg after 9-11 because of that.
And when Berg was arrested by the Iraqi police in Iraq, he had a Koran on him and some anti-Jewish literature. Berg was Jewish.
Something does not add up here.
But there was definitely something very strange about this Berg guy. The guy who apparently wanted to be the '20th hijacker,' who is mentioned in the post above, used Berg's email address while in college. How weird of a coincidence is that? The FBI interviewed Berg after 9-11 because of that.
And when Berg was arrested by the Iraqi police in Iraq, he had a Koran on him and some anti-Jewish literature. Berg was Jewish.
Something does not add up here.
This berg video thing looks kinda suss. Cutting off a head and little to zero blood? Also I did a web search many questions from many people, eg the timings all wrong and over a missing minute plus of video? Maybe this will be like the British photo's which are now known to be fake as I heard on News Radio this morning? I take little at face value these days.
Now I suppose I'll need to watch the video...No blood??
Well none if you don't count the great red wet stain down the front of the overalls.
The video that I saw had big gaps in the time sequencing (like 3 minutes of video stuffed into a minute and a third).
From the quality, and fact that there's gaps in the times, I couldn't make a "more or less than reality" call.
The video that I saw had big gaps in the time sequencing (like 3 minutes of video stuffed into a minute and a third).
From the quality, and fact that there's gaps in the times, I couldn't make a "more or less than reality" call.
A muslim extremist once was quoted as saying "Americans love Pepsi, we love death"
That says it all, I refuse to be tolerant of a group of people that can use a MECHETE and sit there and saw on this guy's neck for 30+ seconds. There was a lot of blood by the way, its just a poor quality video (hey, they're terrorists, not hollywood). If I was ever to get my hands on the people responsible... man...
Durr,
as long as we don't blur the line between the people who carried out this attrocity and a country full of people (or the balance of an entire religion) who did not carry out this attrocity.
[ May 14, 2004, 08:06 AM: Message edited by: Shannow ]
as long as we don't blur the line between the people who carried out this attrocity and a country full of people (or the balance of an entire religion) who did not carry out this attrocity.
[ May 14, 2004, 08:06 AM: Message edited by: Shannow ]
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