Baxter Performance Spin on filter for Pentastar 3.6
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https://baxterperformanceusa.com/product/ms-201-bk-cartridge-to-spin-on-adapter/
I own two Pentastars and I can see how a spin-on would appear to be less hassle, but in reality I don't see how the Baxter adapter makes an oil change any easier. Plus, the spin on, being installed with the open end down, when removed would certainly dump oil in the valley of your engine. The cartridge will drain and you shouldn't spill even a drop of oil if you are careful. I also like the ease of cutting the cartridge filter to look for debris.
Cool idea, but I'll pass on this adapter.
I own two Pentastars and I can see how a spin-on would appear to be less hassle, but in reality I don't see how the Baxter adapter makes an oil change any easier. Plus, the spin on, being installed with the open end down, when removed would certainly dump oil in the valley of your engine. The cartridge will drain and you shouldn't spill even a drop of oil if you are careful. I also like the ease of cutting the cartridge filter to look for debris.
Cool idea, but I'll pass on this adapter.
I like the idea. I wonder what the cost is going to be.
I don't want to be the bad guy here but....if it's a fairly useless add-on that doesn't provide any benefit...why not just call it what it is?
It's an easy to design thing someone thought up to sell....not worth the time or money.
Plus, it's gotta be somewhat cheap to be salable and profitable to the maker. Also, how many will be sold?
It won't even sell to 4% (a number I just made up) of Pentastar owners. 'Tis a high school boy mod.
Flame suit on.
It's an easy to design thing someone thought up to sell....not worth the time or money.
Plus, it's gotta be somewhat cheap to be salable and profitable to the maker. Also, how many will be sold?
It won't even sell to 4% (a number I just made up) of Pentastar owners. 'Tis a high school boy mod.
Flame suit on.
I wouldn't bother using this on the Caravan. It will be a small percentage that may want this.
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The spin on goes on top … ?
Seems they would have made it a remote adapter to do filter and cooler loop if desired
Considering how fragile that filter/cooler is … something like this puts the filter on another mount and then you don’t touch it again …
Seems they would have made it a remote adapter to do filter and cooler loop if desired
Considering how fragile that filter/cooler is … something like this puts the filter on another mount and then you don’t touch it again …
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Glad that they are making them for other makes.
Meh. The 3.6L is a cartridge filter on engine top application, right? Ime, the cartridge on engine top is well adapted to oil changes. I see they note the OE cartridge has no adbv. Anyone experiencing a start up rattle with their 3.6L? If not imo this point is a moot one.
I'll be curious of price, my speculation is relatively high (based on references given, $200+). That being the case, a little time saved here wouldn't be worth it (roi) for me. This from someone that does 'prefer' spin on type OF.
I'll be curious of price, my speculation is relatively high (based on references given, $200+). That being the case, a little time saved here wouldn't be worth it (roi) for me. This from someone that does 'prefer' spin on type OF.
The valvetrain does make a bit of noise until it gets oil pressure.
Kevin from Oil Udder talked about it here:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/pentastar-startup-rattle.330287/post-5490153
Yeah, after I posted I thought I should have used the word 'significant' as a qualifier prior to start up rattle. If that 3.6L anecdote is representative of the tick, 'I' wouldn't consider it significant. It didn't sound bad to me. Wouldn't change my original thought on the topic.
Otoh, have some past experience with 3.8L Hyun engine with same cartridge orientation, the start up rattle much more noticeable than the 3.6L in the yt. And it still wouldn't have been enough to make me consider topic retro fit even if made.
We have a 2014 T&C and if it sits for more than a couple days she is a little noisy at start up. It goes away quick but by then the damage is done. I remember when we were shopping for ours in 2017, the first one the salesman fired up did this as I stood in front. I told him no thanks and moved on. Didn't even bother to look at the rest of the vehicle. He was perplexed by my decision. Once I looked at several more I realized that they were all doing it...
I'm guessing the body will rust out living in eastern Iowa long before the engine gives up IMO... I currently use Mobil Super Synthetic 5W30 and will probably move to Super Tech FS next change.
Just my $0.02
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I don't see the point at all in this when there are Pentastars out there with hundreds of thousands of miles on them running the stock filter setup.
The idea is great in my opinion because the engine is noisy at startup and it probably is due to the filter configuration. But, I am not certain I would trust it for proper oil flow, etc. The oil has to travel up into the filter and back down into the engine. While this is common for vehicles with 'normal' filters, it was not taken into account when the Pentastar was designed.
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Saw this on TruckU this weekend. I am interested. Hmmm! Truck you!!!
Pentastars are already known for lasting a long, long time. I'm not sure the spin on filter adapter is necessary or really gains you anything. I'm also not sure about the assumptions about drainback with the stock cartridge filter. I've drained my Pentastar to where there was just a tiny trickle from the drain plug (It will trickle like this for hours). I then removed the oil filter. Very shortly after that, the amount trickling increased for a few minutes. So that tells me there was oil being held up just below the filter housing. Are we sure there is no built-in anti-drainback device in there? Sure looked like it to me.
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