Originally Posted By: BHopkins
There are a lot of variables that could change these results.
Not all snow tires are created equal. Not all all season tires are created equal. Not all AWD systems are created equal. There are all season tires out there that would out perform many snow tires. And there are AWD systems out there that will manage power better than others.
Generally, the results of the video are true. But one can't go out and buy any old snow tire brand, put them on a FWD and expect it to outperform any AWD. Very misleading video for the uninformed. As expected for the experienced in winter driving.
That video leaves too much "unknown" for me to give it much attention. For instance, what were the All Season tires left on the AWD vehicle? Not all AS tires are created equal. Were they a M+S rated AS or a summer/performance AS? Were they a light truck/suv class AS or a passenger car AS? That is some info I sure would like to know.
I have had god awful AS's for snow performance( Dunlop Grandtrek AT20, Goodyear Wrangler ST, Goodyear Wrangler HP, etc... )and I have had excellent snow performance out of AS's( Firestone Destination LE & LE2, Michelin LTX M+S & M+S2, Bridgestone Dueler HL Alenza, General Grabber HTS, etc... ). As said not all are created equal. My examples are light truck/suv class but I could do the same with passenger car class as well.
To do that comparison they went out and upgraded the tires on the FWD to snow tires which you can pretty much assume will at least be decent in snow and ice. However, why wouldn't they at least do an upgrade of the AS's on the AWD model to a tire known to perform well in the snow and ice? Or, at the least provide us the brand and model of the AS's used so we can see if they are known [censored] tires in the snow? How about the brand and model of the snow's used? They are not all created equal either. Some are super aggressive and would skew things big time vs a poor AS.
I can't place any faith in tests where we don't know all the info. Comes across as manipulated info to me. I am bias I admit because I run AS's year round. However, I know they are not all the same and I make sure I have quality ones on my vehicles. I have ZERO problems in the snow and ice running AS's as a result.
There are a lot of variables that could change these results.
Not all snow tires are created equal. Not all all season tires are created equal. Not all AWD systems are created equal. There are all season tires out there that would out perform many snow tires. And there are AWD systems out there that will manage power better than others.
Generally, the results of the video are true. But one can't go out and buy any old snow tire brand, put them on a FWD and expect it to outperform any AWD. Very misleading video for the uninformed. As expected for the experienced in winter driving.
That video leaves too much "unknown" for me to give it much attention. For instance, what were the All Season tires left on the AWD vehicle? Not all AS tires are created equal. Were they a M+S rated AS or a summer/performance AS? Were they a light truck/suv class AS or a passenger car AS? That is some info I sure would like to know.
I have had god awful AS's for snow performance( Dunlop Grandtrek AT20, Goodyear Wrangler ST, Goodyear Wrangler HP, etc... )and I have had excellent snow performance out of AS's( Firestone Destination LE & LE2, Michelin LTX M+S & M+S2, Bridgestone Dueler HL Alenza, General Grabber HTS, etc... ). As said not all are created equal. My examples are light truck/suv class but I could do the same with passenger car class as well.
To do that comparison they went out and upgraded the tires on the FWD to snow tires which you can pretty much assume will at least be decent in snow and ice. However, why wouldn't they at least do an upgrade of the AS's on the AWD model to a tire known to perform well in the snow and ice? Or, at the least provide us the brand and model of the AS's used so we can see if they are known [censored] tires in the snow? How about the brand and model of the snow's used? They are not all created equal either. Some are super aggressive and would skew things big time vs a poor AS.
I can't place any faith in tests where we don't know all the info. Comes across as manipulated info to me. I am bias I admit because I run AS's year round. However, I know they are not all the same and I make sure I have quality ones on my vehicles. I have ZERO problems in the snow and ice running AS's as a result.
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