Avis mystery car rental-ugghh

[GON]

Captive audiences like that are easy prey for thieves and whatever. I guess the answer is to not charge at night but in some places you are vulnerable in the daytime as well.

Maybe the guys on the medians/ islands that panhandle at the stoplights will find it more lucrative to set up shop at a TSLA charging station. Audience is much more captive at the tSLA charging station.

 

[Torrid]

Maybe the guys on the medians/ islands that panhandle at the stoplights will find it more lucrative to set up shop at a TSLA charging station. Audience is much more captive at the tSLA charging station.

That's a location that the police would be more likely to show up and make them vacate the premises. I've yet to see a charging station here that wasn't in a store or restaurant parking lot and I very much doubt the businesses would allow it. Obviously all depends on the area too. That's really no different than posting up in a gas station where you know that at some point someone will have to stop. That obviously wouldn't fly for long either.

 

[GON]

That's a location that the police would be more likely to show up and make them vacate the premises. I've yet to see a charging station here that wasn't in a store or restaurant parking lot and I very much doubt the businesses would allow it. Obviously all depends on the area too. That's really no different than posting up in a gas station where you know that at some point someone will have to stop. That obviously wouldn't fly for long either.

We must live on different "worlds". I travel all over the nation and often see panhandlers waiting at the stop sign to exit a Walmart, target, I can go on and on.

Glad things are safe and police prevent panhandlers from private retail properties in Wisconsin. I don't travel to Wisconsin, but where I do travel it is not unusual to find panhandlers waiting at the exits of retail parking lots.

 

[GON]

For note, I parked the tSLA and met a friend for dinner Thursday night. Last time I saw my friend he had a 2021 Chevy Tahoe.

He came.into the restaurant and of course we start talking cars. He said he bought a TSLA model x two years ago. Loved it so much, the next morning he was getting a new.model x, becuase TSLA offered a on time only transfer of some $15k automation package from histwo years old TSLA to a brand new TSLA. He said tSLA stated this was a once in a lifetime software transfer for free offer. He loves his TSLA.

We started talking retirement and locations
We both love the El Paso area (my wife hates El Paso). I suggested he checkout big bend national parks. He said he couldn't take his TSLA from El Paso to big bend as there are not feasible charging locations for that route.

 

[Torrid]

We must live on different "worlds". I travel all over the nation and often see panhandlers waiting at the stop sign to exit a Walmart, target, I can go on and on.

Glad things are safe and police prevent panhandlers from private retail properties in Wisconsin. I don't travel to Wisconsin, but where I do travel it is not unusual to find panhandlers waiting at the exits of retail parking lots.

I lived in Phoenix and Las Vegas. I don't see how it's any different than what happened at gas stations. There's a reason I don't live in big cities anymore. I still deal with it on occasion. I don't stop in those areas. I've also never stayed with the car when charging, ever.

 

[GON]

I lived in Phoenix and Las Vegas. I don't see how it's any different than what happened at gas stations.

Easy, one is static at a gas station for five minutes. One is static at a TSLA charging station for 30 minutes. One can pull into a gas station, feel uncomfortable and go a fewiles to another station. That may not be a options for a TSLA driver.

Mark this post. There will be armed guards at TSLA charging stations in the near future, and there will be an additional "armed guard surcharge", called safety something, that will be a new mandatory surcharge to TSLA owners, and this will actually increase the profits for TSLA. Simply genius that Elon Musk.

 

[Torrid]

Easy, one is static at a gas station for five minutes. One is static at a TSLA charging station for 30 minutes. One can pull into a gas station, feel uncomfortable and go a fewiles to another station. That may not be a options for a TSLA driver.

Mark this post. There will be armed guards at TSLA charging stations in the near future, and there will be an additional "armed guard surcharge", called safety something, that will be a new mandatory surcharge to TSLA owners, and this will actually increase the profits for TSLA. Simply genius that Elon Musk.

I guess I don't have enough time in my day to make up scenarios like this. I guess parking a car and going into a store is completely different to placing a plug in the side of the car before I do it.

 

[GON]

I guess I don't have enough time in my day to make up scenarios like this. I guess parking a car and going into a store is completely different to placing a plug in the side of the car before I do it.

Maybe you should spend a hour researching increases in serious crimes in charging stations across North America, instead of you own micro sample from Wisconsin.

 

[Torrid]

Maybe you should spend a hour researching increases in serious crimes in charging stations across North America, instead of you own micro sample from Wisconsin.

All I hear is big city stupid stuff happens in big cities. I've been accosted enough times at gas stations. I don't know why that would be any different based on how a car is fueled, especially if someone stayed in the car. I've also never stayed in the car when charging. All I'm saying is that I moved out of big cities for reasons of crime because of my kids. I lost my job at the time and specifically looked in an area nearer to family to move to a small town. I really don't know what you want me to say. How would I know anything other than crime happens in high crime areas? I wouldn't live in Milwaukee either. I do work there occasionally in not so nice areas.

 

[GON]

All I hear is big city stupid stuff happens in big cities. I've been accosted enough times at gas stations. I don't know why that would be any different based on how a car is fueled, especially if someone stayed in the car. I've also never stayed in the car when charging. All I'm saying is that I moved out of big cities for reasons of crime because of my kids. I lost my job at the time and specifically looked in an area nearer to family to move to a small town. I really don't know what you want me to say. How would I know anything other than crime happens in high crime areas? I wouldn't live in Milwaukee either. I do work there occasionally in not so nice areas.

Glad you moved your family to a small town in Wisconsin. Hard to beat the quality of life (less cold and summer mosquitoes and deer flies)and the Americana spirit in small town Wisconsin.

 

[y_p_w]

That's a location that the police would be more likely to show up and make them vacate the premises. I've yet to see a charging station here that wasn't in a store or restaurant parking lot and I very much doubt the businesses would allow it. Obviously all depends on the area too. That's really no different than posting up in a gas station where you know that at some point someone will have to stop. That obviously wouldn't fly for long either.

I've yet to really see much of a paid security presence at any Tesla Supercharger other than maybe just basic mall security. However, I've yet to be at one where I was thinking it felt dangerous at night.

However, nearly every one I've seen was in the parking lot of some retail business (i.e. shopping mall) and/or tourist attraction. I've yet to use one, but I hear some Tesla Superchargers are at government buildings. This was the only one that seemed to be random. This one is in a seemingly random location. I guess the parking lot services a few retail businesses, but I barely noticed them. Mostly it was for several nonprofits and a public library. Kind of a weird setup though, with the retail businesses mostly served by a separate parking lot on the other side of the buildings.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/...904,-124.1953527,129m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu

From what I could tell - it was a little used parking lot that was in a fairly convenient location about a block away from the main drag - US-101/L and M Streets. But it wasn't in a big-ish shopping center complex nor attached to a specific restaurant. It also seemed like the kind of place the police wouldn't necessarily be patrolling as much as the main streets. And other than recent paving at the charging stations, it wasn't the most well maintained parking lot with lots of potholes. they also had this, which might have been interesting if I had a different car.

That being said, if charging stations ever become a point for criminal activities, I would expect an increased police presence. Perhaps it's unfair, but once reasonably affluent people start getting victimized at a specific location, that's when police act.

 

[JeffKeryk]

I may have been able to use the tSLA app. I am working a full schedule, I didn't have the time nor desire to download, program, and learn a application. I try to keep it simple.

For the safety in numbers, I think that is old school thinking. All one has to do is watch assaults on public transit to know that is no longer the case. Something tells me 90 plus percent of current TSLA owners don't have the mindset to help someone in distress if it puts them at risk/exposure. Real life......

The app is uber simple; there is no learning. The car unlocks when you are within 5' (or whatever it is) and is on when you get in.
Get out, close the door and walk away; the car locks.
Sorta like using the card key without the card key, as long as you have juice in your cell.

 

[Torrid]

The app is uber simple; there is no learning. The car unlocks when you are within 5' (or whatever it is) and is on when you get in.
Get out, close the door and walk away; the car locks.
Sorta like using the card key without the card key, as long as you have juice in your cell.

I didn’t know if that’s something they’d lock out on a rental though which is why I brought up the fob. I wouldn’t think they’d want people tying their phones to rentals in case someone forgot to clear access.

 

[JeffKeryk]

I didn’t know if that’s something they’d lock out on a rental though which is why I brought up the fob. I wouldn’t think they’d want people tying their phones to rentals in case someone forgot to clear access.

It's software; that's a simple security function. Avis could do 1 click on their system and disable your access and/or put a date range on it.

 

[Torrid]

It's software; that's a simple security function. Avis could do 1 click on their system and disable your access and/or put a date range on it.

I figured so. I wasn’t sure if it was possible to set up phone as a key in the first place with their cars. Even so it would be a lot easier to give unfamiliar people the key fob.

 

[y_p_w]

The app is uber simple; there is no learning. The car unlocks when you are within 5' (or whatever it is) and is on when you get in.
Get out, close the door and walk away; the car locks.
Sorta like using the card key without the card key, as long as you have juice in your cell.

There are nuances. I've got it on my iPhone and on my iPad and something I have to make sure that I've got the phone waking up or even starting the Tesla app. Not always though, where sometimes it just works with the phone in my pocket. The auto-lock is far more consistent since it's just looking for an absence of the device. I'm also thinking that it doesn't necessarily unlock until someone goes to the door or trunk.

With a Tesla loaner there was a QR code that popped up periodically on the display for adding the car to the app. I found a photo someone posted of a Hertz rental. I believe it changes the QR code each time and it's just a URL that then brings up the app.

 

[Torrid]

There are nuances. I've got it on my iPhone and on my iPad and something I have to make sure that I've got the phone waking up or even starting the Tesla app. Not always though, where sometimes it just works with the phone in my pocket. The auto-lock is far more consistent since it's just looking for an absence of the device. I'm also thinking that it doesn't necessarily unlock until someone goes to the door or trunk.

With a Tesla loaner there was a QR code that popped up periodically on the display for adding the car to the app. I found a photo someone posted of a Hertz rental. I believe it changes the QR code each time and it's just a URL that then brings up the app.

If I got a Tesla as a rental and I had no interest in Tesla I’d be absolutely irritated that I’d have to download the app to drive it like a normal keyless car. I was ready to buy the fob for our current car, but I got used to this setup and it’s fine. It is still less reliable than a fob though. My VW has never not recognized the key unless the battery was dead. If I haven’t driven the Tesla in a day or two I have to physically open the app before attempting to get into the car. It’s stupid, unnecessary complication.

 

[alarmguy]

That's a location that the police would be more likely to show up and make them vacate the premises. I've yet to see a charging station here that wasn't in a store or restaurant parking lot and I very much doubt the businesses would allow it. Obviously all depends on the area too. That's really no different than posting up in a gas station where you know that at some point someone will have to stop. That obviously wouldn't fly for long either.

There are many states and areas in the USA that this would not be true.
A gas station is completely different, it's not a public parking lot and a gas station is manned 24 hours a day, most of them are convenience stores with typically many people around, that is a lot better than a public parking lot where you would be like a sitting duck. I just call it like it is in a case like this, there is no comparison.
This photo posted which I copied below is a perfect example.

Also to that post (not by you) you will NEVER see an increased police presence guarding recharge stations of all things, that will be up to private industry if it becomes a problem. Just the same as you do not see police guarding entire shopping malls, never mind an electric "gas" station.
Tell me, is there anyone in this thread that would honestly like their daughter (or son), wife or themselves sitting here charging their car at 1AM in the morning or anytime of night?

 

[John105]

haha "mystery car" made me think back to PHL around 2002....car rentals were $12 (not a misprint).

I would always choose the base car (personal), then they'd give me something like a Corolla or even Camry.

One time, the counter person offered an upgrade. I said no. He said are you sure? I said yep. He said, "I have, and will give you, the car you reserved." I stood my ground and began my trip from PHL to Montreal in a 3 cyl Chevy Aveo. Picked up my buddy in Albany and he laughed at me and said, "What have you done." The Aveo however is clearly nicer than a Tesla 3 as a rental.

Haven't had to deal with a counter since 2010 due to current job and Emerald Club....

 

[demarpaint]

There are many states and areas in the USA that this would not be true.
A gas station is completely different, it's not a public parking lot and a gas station is manned 24 hours a day, most of them are convenience stores with typically many people around, that is a lot better than a public parking lot where you would be like a sitting duck. I just call it like it is in a case like this, there is no comparison.

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