Autozone “Oil Full” sign

[Rmay635703]

My first time-ever was at O'Reilly's. I was shocked they emptied my two big jugs.

I was able to unload at AP they required me to sign off my life’s history and data, they wouldn’t toss my oil container making me bring it home and toss.

Autozone still said full as did O’Reilly and Napa, AP is the furthest away but at least it’s done.

Maybe the oil pumper is on vacation or sick or something.

 

[mr_boring]

This is my favorite

I put multiple holes 20 feet or so from my well head.

Gotta go deep tho Pab's - get as close to the water table as you can. Dispersant is optimal that way. It's less likely to collect in just one place.

 

[Chris142]

I'll chime in
Out West here in southern California If you were to burn anything like that, you'd have a full scale fire brickade coming down your street.
I frequent the local auto part stores to drop off waste oil.
I put them in a plastic trash bag and leave them outside.

If they don't accept your oil, I would just leave them outside after business hours.

oh you are that guy?

 

[Pablo]

Gotta go deep tho Pab's - get as close to the water table as you can. Dispersant is optimal that way. It's less likely to collect in just one place.

Forum name checks out

 

[Nyogtha]

Does say something about the market - or rather the infrastructure in place

I wonder crazy thoughts like mixing used lubes in with raw crude...........seems like should work...........

There have been numerous schemes to re-refine used motor oil. The additives in fully formulatedmotor oil present a real problem vs refining crude oil. BP tried coprocessing used PCMO in a unit called a Coker that processes . It incorporates thin oils. The next time that unit shut down for widespread maintenance they found the small amount of PMCO in the unit feed had put twice the wear and tear on the equipment than prior operation without adding PMCO, and that ended that idea.

Safety Kleen has a small.process unit, small in comparison to a full crude oil refinery, dedicated to recycling used PMCO to recover the base stock. They're able to produce Group.II base oil to reformulated fresh PCMO. They get around a 50% to 60% yield for base stock.

The government is a huge customer for re-refined motor oil. Attempts to market re-refined PCMO at retail level has never been successful..Safety Kleen had quarts of oil on Walmart shelves back years ago, always priced at a disadvantage to freshly refined lubricant from crude oil. It didn't last long on those shelf spots. Valvoline went all out on their Next Gen PCMO made using re-refined base stock. They hyped up advertising on that product including sessions at colleges emphasizing the recycled aspect. It bombed again as pricing wasn't significantly less than conventional PMCO, and it only lasted a few years on the market.

Economy of scale for PCMO with base stock refined from fresh crude oil is less expensive to produce re-refined base stock PMCO.

Here's a web page with some videos aboutideo about the used oil collection and the re-refinerySafety Kleen re-refinery

https://www.safety-kleen.com/services

The other avenue to disposing used PMCO is to blend it with heavy oils that ships primarily use. It's limited to 3% in the mix to keep it from producing significantly extra wear and tear. This route doesn't do well with water or glycols in the mix.

We take our used PCMO to O'Reilly because they also accept used oil filters as well as used oil. I know they use Dafety Kleen because that's the name on the form you fill out to recycle our PCMO. With Safety Kleen these used oil filters are shredded with the metal going to scrap for recycling, and the non-metal.parts burned in a power plant designed to use this material.

If I have someting else like used ATF I take it to Aitozone as at least the stores I've used will accept this material. This leads me to believe Auto Zone's recyclers blends used PCMO & ATF all in the same tank at the store. Then I take the automatic transmission filters to a nearby Firestone with no hassle.

I've never recycled PCMO.and / or ATF at Advanced Auto because they've never been as nearby as an Autozone wherever I've lived.

The City of San Antonio offers free household hazardous waste material collections at no cost throughout the year. One of the items they accept is used PMCO. I've never used this because I want to dispose used PMCO, oil.flters, or used ATF shortly after I generate them. I don't like that material sitting around in the garage.

 

[D60]

We take our used PCMO to O'Reilly because they also accept used oil filters as well as used oil. I know they use Dafety Kleen because that's the name on the form you fill out to recycle our PCMO. With Safety Kleen these used oil filters are shredded with the metal going to scrap for recycling, and the non-metal.parts burned in a power plant designed to use this material.

If I have someting else like used ATF I take it to Aitozone as at least the stores I've used will accept this material. This leads me to believe Auto Zone's recyclers blends used PCMO & ATF all in the same tank at the store. Then I take the automatic transmission filters to a nearby Firestone with no hassle.

I've never recycled PCMO.and / or ATF at Advanced Auto because they've never been as nearby as an Autozone wherever I've lived.

So your O'Reilly specifically states they will ONLY accept motor oil and not ATF? Have you asked? Is this spelled out on the Safety Kleen form you say you complete?

I find this highly unlikely.....?

 

[Rmay635703]

Used motor oil is used in moderately small amounts in the tar and asphalt industry.


This reminds me of the 10 with 30 top off oil scam sold in certain convenience stores.

TBN and other traits matched used motor oil

 

[dogememe]

There have been numerous schemes to re-refine used motor oil. The additives in fully formulatedmotor oil present a real problem vs refining crude oil. BP tried coprocessing used PCMO in a unit called a Coker that processes . It incorporates thin oils. The next time that unit shut down for widespread maintenance they found the small amount of PMCO in the unit feed had put twice the wear and tear on the equipment than prior operation without adding PMCO, and that ended that idea.

Safety Kleen has a small.process unit, small in comparison to a full crude oil refinery, dedicated to recycling used PMCO to recover the base stock. They're able to produce Group.II base oil to reformulated fresh PCMO. They get around a 50% to 60% yield for base stock.

The government is a huge customer for re-refined motor oil. Attempts to market re-refined PCMO at retail level has never been successful..Safety Kleen had quarts of oil on Walmart shelves back years ago, always priced at a disadvantage to freshly refined lubricant from crude oil. It didn't last long on those shelf spots. Valvoline went all out on their Next Gen PCMO made using re-refined base stock. They hyped up advertising on that product including sessions at colleges emphasizing the recycled aspect. It bombed again as pricing wasn't significantly less than conventional PMCO, and it only lasted a few years on the market.

Economy of scale for PCMO with base stock refined from fresh crude oil is less expensive to produce re-refined base stock PMCO.

Here's a web page with some videos aboutideo about the used oil collection and the re-refinerySafety Kleen re-refinery

https://www.safety-kleen.com/services

The other avenue to disposing used PMCO is to blend it with heavy oils that ships primarily use. It's limited to 3% in the mix to keep it from producing significantly extra wear and tear. This route doesn't do well with water or glycols in the mix.

We take our used PCMO to O'Reilly because they also accept used oil filters as well as used oil. I know they use Dafety Kleen because that's the name on the form you fill out to recycle our PCMO. With Safety Kleen these used oil filters are shredded with the metal going to scrap for recycling, and the non-metal.parts burned in a power plant designed to use this material.

If I have someting else like used ATF I take it to Aitozone as at least the stores I've used will accept this material. This leads me to believe Auto Zone's recyclers blends used PCMO & ATF all in the same tank at the store. Then I take the automatic transmission filters to a nearby Firestone with no hassle.

I've never recycled PCMO.and / or ATF at Advanced Auto because they've never been as nearby as an Autozone wherever I've lived.

The City of San Antonio offers free household hazardous waste material collections at no cost throughout the year. One of the items they accept is used PMCO. I've never used this because I want to dispose used PMCO, oil.flters, or used ATF shortly after I generate them. I don't like that material sitting around in the garage.

O'Reilly no longer uses Safety Kleen as of October 1st, at least in CALIFORNIA, not sure about other states. But who told you the stores don't take ATF? That's bizarre. At O'Reilly:

OK TO DUMP:

• Motor oil
• Gear oil
• ATF
• PSF
• Hydraulic oil

NOT OK:

• Coolant
• Brake fluid
• Fuel

 

[Nyogtha]

O'Reilly no longer uses Safety Kleen as of October 1st, at least in CALIFORNIA, not sure about other states. But who told you the stores don't take ATF? That's bizarre. At O'Reilly:

OK TO DUMP:

• Motor oil
• Gear oil
• ATF
• PSF
• Hydraulic oil

NOT OK:

• Coolant
• Brake fluid
• Fuel

You could check with O'Reilly in your area by phoning, or taking some fluids other than motor oil to them regardless of how unlikely this seems to you. The paper you sign for recycling fluids there is conditional with recycling fluid that requires you to bring motor oil only. It's been this way for YEARS both in OHIO and TEXAS with the exact same form to fill out and sign.

Here's the O'Reilly website on fluids recycling. It doesn't jibe with the forms I've signed over the years with respect to ATF. Note many of the fluids on your list are not included.

Have you actually taken used motor oil to O'Reilly, even once?

 

[dogememe]

You could check with O'Reilly in your area by phoning, or taking some fluids other than motor oil to them regardless of how unlikely this seems to you. The paper you sign for recycling fluids there is conditional with recycling fluid that requires you to bring motor oil only. It's been this way for YEARS both in OHIO and TEXAS with the exact same form to fill out and sign.

Here's the O'Reilly website on fluids recycling. It doesn't jibe with the forms I've signed over the years with respect to ATF. Note many of the fluids on your list are not included.

Have you actually taken used motor oil to O'Reilly, even once?

I think I am uniquely qualified to answer the question, as I spend approximately 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, at an O’Reilly. I don’t feel comfortable posting the internal documentation about what is acceptable in terms of fluid recycling but what I posted is a close enough summary that has been valid for four different stores in California across two vendors, both when it was Safety Kleen and now World Oil. And I don’t get why it would be any different in other states.

 

[Rust_Belt_Pete]

Why would I give away perfectly good heating oil?

 

[dogememe]

@Nyogtha

This public list on the O’Reilly website mirrors what I just said.

 

[D60]

You could check with O'Reilly in your area by phoning, or taking some fluids other than motor oil to them regardless of how unlikely this seems to you. The paper you sign for recycling fluids there is conditional with recycling fluid that requires you to bring motor oil only. It's been this way for YEARS both in OHIO and TEXAS with the exact same form to fill out and sign.

Here's the O'Reilly website on fluids recycling. It doesn't jibe with the forms I've signed over the years with respect to ATF. Note many of the fluids on your list are not included.

Have you actually taken used motor oil to O'Reilly, even once?

Would love to see a pic of this form. Where, exactly, is this O'Reilly?

 

[D60]

Furthermore if you put a couple dirty quarts ATF with motor oil, there's no way for them to tell when pouring. Maybe 30 years ago viscosity kinda gave it away but with 0W20 being so common that's out the window.

If ATF really threw a wrench in the works they simply wouldn't be able to accept any waste oil as there's NO WAY to tell shy of a UOA on every container

 

[dogememe]

Would love to see a pic of this form. Where, exactly, is this O'Reilly?

Perhaps it's on Mars. Elon is set on colonizing it - what will the first auto parts store on that planet be?

 

[D60]

Perhaps it's on Mars. Elon is set on colonizing it - what will the first auto parts store on that planet be?

I dunno, if he can provide a specific location I'm happy to call the store manager and if necessary the DM -- and if necessary World Oil to understand why ATF would not be accepted but motor oil is ok, and how they expect to have any clue if they're getting motor oil, gear oil, hydraulic oil or ATF (water is more obvious and fuel would have a smell)