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https://www.autonews.com/technology/ev-industry-seen-shifting-800-volt-technology
It's a subscription site so I'm pasting the article...
Electric vehicles make up only about one-tenth of the global market. But automakers and suppliers are preparing for the next generation of components, with solid-state batteries, axial flux motors — and now, 800-volt electrical systems that promise to cut charging time in half, sharply reduce battery size and cost and increase drivetrain efficiency.
So far, just a handful of new vehicles use 800-volt systems, as opposed to the standard 400-volt technology. Among the examples reaching the market: the Porsche Taycan, Audi E-tron GT, Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6. The Lucid Air luxury sedan uses a 900-volt architecture, but experts say it is technically an 800-volt system.
EV component suppliers say that by the end of the decade, 800-volt vehicle architectures will be the dominant technology, especially as more and more dedicated full-electric platforms such as Hyundai's E-GMP and Volkswagen Group's PPE appear.
"In 2025, the majority of applications coming into the market will be 800 volt," said Dirk Kesselgruber, president of thIMG02e electric drivetrain division at GKN, one of several Tier 1 suppliers that have embraced the technology. GKN is offering 800-volt-ready components such as e-axles, with an eye to starting series production in 2025.
"We think it's going to be the mainstream, and Hyundai has proved that it can be competitive on price," he told Automotive News Europe.
Other suppliers echo his enthusiasm.
"800 volt is the logical next step in the development of BEVs," Alexander Reich, head of innovation power electronics at Vitesco, said in an interview with the publication. Vitesco has landed big contracts for 800-volt-enabled components, including supplying inverters for Hyundai's E-GMP platform, inverters for a major North American automaker and electric motors for a leading EV maker in China.
"The 800-volt sector has grown faster than was expected several years ago, and we are seeing a lot of interest from our customers," Harry Husted, chief technical officer at BorgWarner, said via email. The supplier has won a number of 800-volt orders, including one for an integrated drive module for a Chinese luxury brand.
Why the change?
What's so great about 800-volt systems compared with existing 400-volt ones?
The advantages are numerous, experts say, starting with the premise that they can deliver the same amount of power at a lower current.
"By doubling the voltage and having the same current, you get two times the energy into a vehicle," Reich said.
The main benefit is an approximately 50 percent faster charging time for the same battery size. As a result, batteries — the costliest component in an EV — can be made smaller and overall weight is reduced, increasing efficiency.
"There is no need for 1,000 km of range in an EV" if charging times are fast enough, Reich said.
At the same time, because higher voltages supply the same amount of power with less current, cables and wires can be made smaller and lighter, cutting down on consumption of costly and heavy copper.
Less energy is lost, too, meaning better range and improved motor performance, also helped by lower weight. And there is less need for elaborate thermal management systems to ensure the battery is working at optimal temperatures.
When paired with emerging silicon carbide microchip technology, 800-volt systems can increase powertrain efficiency by up to 5 percent. Such chips lose less energy to switching, and are particularly effective for regenerative braking.
Because the new silicon carbide chips use less pure silicon, costs are potentially reduced and more chips could be made available to the auto industry, suppliers say. Other industries tend to use full silicon chips, competing with automakers for space at wafer fabs.
"Putting everything together, 800 volt is a really big deal," Kesselgruber of GKN said.
Fuel station parity
But with most existing charging stations based on 400-volt systems, is there still an advantage for cars with 800-volt architectures?
Experts say yes, though vehicles will need an 800-volt-based charging infrastructure to take full advantage.
"Much of the existing DC fast charging infrastructure is for 400-volt vehicles," said BorgWarner's Husted. "To allow the faster charging that 800 volt enables, the latest generation of high-voltage, high-power DC fast chargers will be needed."
That's not an issue for home charging, but the highest-speed public charging networks so far are limited. Reich believes it will be a particular issue for highway charging stations.
"The refill has to be as quick as fueling up at a gas station," he said. "This is the use case" for 800-volt charging.
Europe is seeing the rise of such networks.
Ionity is a multi-automaker partnership with a number of 800-volt, 350-kilowatt highway charging points.
"A 350-kW charger translates into five to seven minutes charging time for 100 km," said Otmar Scharrer, senior vice president electrified powertrain technology at ZF. That's about the same time as a coffee break, he pointed out.
"This is really a game-changer," he said. "This is something that will drive acceptance of e-mobility."
According to a recent report from Porsche, it takes about 80 minutes to add 250 miles of range at a typical 50-kW, 400-volt station. That time drops to 40 minutes at 100 kW. If the charging plugs are cooled — adding cost, weight and complexity — that time can fall to 30 minutes, Porsche said.
"A shift to a higher voltage is therefore inevitable in the quest to achieve charging times in the desired corridor," the report said. It would fall to about 15 minutes with 800-volt charging, the automaker said.
Taking into account the time to pay, "the goal of 'charging like filling up' is thus nearly within reach."
Audi says the A6 Avant E-tron concept, based on the same PPE architecture as the Taycan, can take in enough energy in just 10 minutes at a fast-charging station to drive about 186 miles.
Enabling smaller batteries
If fast-charging times mean that ever-larger batteries are no longer needed to eliminate "range anxiety," what are the implications?
Automakers can opt to benefit from faster charging with the same battery pack.
But with EVs still not yet at cost parity with internal combustion vehicles, a smaller battery may be a better choice — on both philosophical as well as commercial grounds, ZF's Scharrer said.
"It makes no sense" to equip a mainstream compact car such as the Ioniq 5 with a very large battery, he said.
In Scharrer's view, the ideal battery size for such a vehicle would be 55 kilowatt-hours, in line with the smaller 58-kWh option offered by Hyundai —provided charging times from 5 to 80 percent fall to 10 minutes.
"It's quite a challenge but it has happened in the laboratory," he said.
A combination of 800-volt charging, both in the vehicle and in the infrastructure, as well as improved chips could make that a reality, he said.
"We have to ask ourselves as a society if it makes sense to use a lot of precious materials that we dig out from the earth like lithium or cobalt, with a lot of weight and a lot of cost just for one or two [long trips] every quarter," he said.
Cautious transformation
If 800-volt technology is indeed superior and inevitable, it's worth asking why nearly all EVs are still based on 400-volt systems, including those from market leader Tesla and from VW.
Scharrer and other experts believe the answer partly lies in convenience and precedent.
The typical house uses a 380-volt three-phase current (voltage rates are actually a range rather than a fixed number), so the charging infrastructure already existed when automakers began launching plug-in hybrids and full-electric vehicles. And the first wave of EVs were built on components developed for plug-in hybrids, which are 400-volt-based.
Automakers and suppliers agree that there are advantages to faster-charging 800-volt architectures. The question is when will the technology arrive.
https://www.autonews.com/technology/ev-industry-seen-shifting-800-volt-technology
It's a subscription site so I'm pasting the article...
Electric vehicles make up only about one-tenth of the global market. But automakers and suppliers are preparing for the next generation of components, with solid-state batteries, axial flux motors — and now, 800-volt electrical systems that promise to cut charging time in half, sharply reduce battery size and cost and increase drivetrain efficiency.
So far, just a handful of new vehicles use 800-volt systems, as opposed to the standard 400-volt technology. Among the examples reaching the market: the Porsche Taycan, Audi E-tron GT, Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6. The Lucid Air luxury sedan uses a 900-volt architecture, but experts say it is technically an 800-volt system.
EV component suppliers say that by the end of the decade, 800-volt vehicle architectures will be the dominant technology, especially as more and more dedicated full-electric platforms such as Hyundai's E-GMP and Volkswagen Group's PPE appear.
"In 2025, the majority of applications coming into the market will be 800 volt," said Dirk Kesselgruber, president of thIMG02e electric drivetrain division at GKN, one of several Tier 1 suppliers that have embraced the technology. GKN is offering 800-volt-ready components such as e-axles, with an eye to starting series production in 2025.
"We think it's going to be the mainstream, and Hyundai has proved that it can be competitive on price," he told Automotive News Europe.
Other suppliers echo his enthusiasm.
"800 volt is the logical next step in the development of BEVs," Alexander Reich, head of innovation power electronics at Vitesco, said in an interview with the publication. Vitesco has landed big contracts for 800-volt-enabled components, including supplying inverters for Hyundai's E-GMP platform, inverters for a major North American automaker and electric motors for a leading EV maker in China.
"The 800-volt sector has grown faster than was expected several years ago, and we are seeing a lot of interest from our customers," Harry Husted, chief technical officer at BorgWarner, said via email. The supplier has won a number of 800-volt orders, including one for an integrated drive module for a Chinese luxury brand.
Why the change?
What's so great about 800-volt systems compared with existing 400-volt ones?
The advantages are numerous, experts say, starting with the premise that they can deliver the same amount of power at a lower current.
"By doubling the voltage and having the same current, you get two times the energy into a vehicle," Reich said.
The main benefit is an approximately 50 percent faster charging time for the same battery size. As a result, batteries — the costliest component in an EV — can be made smaller and overall weight is reduced, increasing efficiency.
"There is no need for 1,000 km of range in an EV" if charging times are fast enough, Reich said.
At the same time, because higher voltages supply the same amount of power with less current, cables and wires can be made smaller and lighter, cutting down on consumption of costly and heavy copper.
Less energy is lost, too, meaning better range and improved motor performance, also helped by lower weight. And there is less need for elaborate thermal management systems to ensure the battery is working at optimal temperatures.
When paired with emerging silicon carbide microchip technology, 800-volt systems can increase powertrain efficiency by up to 5 percent. Such chips lose less energy to switching, and are particularly effective for regenerative braking.
Because the new silicon carbide chips use less pure silicon, costs are potentially reduced and more chips could be made available to the auto industry, suppliers say. Other industries tend to use full silicon chips, competing with automakers for space at wafer fabs.
"Putting everything together, 800 volt is a really big deal," Kesselgruber of GKN said.
Fuel station parity
But with most existing charging stations based on 400-volt systems, is there still an advantage for cars with 800-volt architectures?
Experts say yes, though vehicles will need an 800-volt-based charging infrastructure to take full advantage.
"Much of the existing DC fast charging infrastructure is for 400-volt vehicles," said BorgWarner's Husted. "To allow the faster charging that 800 volt enables, the latest generation of high-voltage, high-power DC fast chargers will be needed."
That's not an issue for home charging, but the highest-speed public charging networks so far are limited. Reich believes it will be a particular issue for highway charging stations.
"The refill has to be as quick as fueling up at a gas station," he said. "This is the use case" for 800-volt charging.
Europe is seeing the rise of such networks.
Ionity is a multi-automaker partnership with a number of 800-volt, 350-kilowatt highway charging points.
"A 350-kW charger translates into five to seven minutes charging time for 100 km," said Otmar Scharrer, senior vice president electrified powertrain technology at ZF. That's about the same time as a coffee break, he pointed out.
"This is really a game-changer," he said. "This is something that will drive acceptance of e-mobility."
According to a recent report from Porsche, it takes about 80 minutes to add 250 miles of range at a typical 50-kW, 400-volt station. That time drops to 40 minutes at 100 kW. If the charging plugs are cooled — adding cost, weight and complexity — that time can fall to 30 minutes, Porsche said.
"A shift to a higher voltage is therefore inevitable in the quest to achieve charging times in the desired corridor," the report said. It would fall to about 15 minutes with 800-volt charging, the automaker said.
Taking into account the time to pay, "the goal of 'charging like filling up' is thus nearly within reach."
Audi says the A6 Avant E-tron concept, based on the same PPE architecture as the Taycan, can take in enough energy in just 10 minutes at a fast-charging station to drive about 186 miles.
Enabling smaller batteries
If fast-charging times mean that ever-larger batteries are no longer needed to eliminate "range anxiety," what are the implications?
Automakers can opt to benefit from faster charging with the same battery pack.
But with EVs still not yet at cost parity with internal combustion vehicles, a smaller battery may be a better choice — on both philosophical as well as commercial grounds, ZF's Scharrer said.
"It makes no sense" to equip a mainstream compact car such as the Ioniq 5 with a very large battery, he said.
In Scharrer's view, the ideal battery size for such a vehicle would be 55 kilowatt-hours, in line with the smaller 58-kWh option offered by Hyundai —provided charging times from 5 to 80 percent fall to 10 minutes.
"It's quite a challenge but it has happened in the laboratory," he said.
A combination of 800-volt charging, both in the vehicle and in the infrastructure, as well as improved chips could make that a reality, he said.
"We have to ask ourselves as a society if it makes sense to use a lot of precious materials that we dig out from the earth like lithium or cobalt, with a lot of weight and a lot of cost just for one or two [long trips] every quarter," he said.
Cautious transformation
If 800-volt technology is indeed superior and inevitable, it's worth asking why nearly all EVs are still based on 400-volt systems, including those from market leader Tesla and from VW.
Scharrer and other experts believe the answer partly lies in convenience and precedent.
The typical house uses a 380-volt three-phase current (voltage rates are actually a range rather than a fixed number), so the charging infrastructure already existed when automakers began launching plug-in hybrids and full-electric vehicles. And the first wave of EVs were built on components developed for plug-in hybrids, which are 400-volt-based.
Automakers and suppliers agree that there are advantages to faster-charging 800-volt architectures. The question is when will the technology arrive.
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