ARX made my lifters noisy?

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If you read a bit more, you will find that RVS is also cleaning the metal.
It will remove deposits on the metal, within 400km(248 miles).
That is also why you have the 2-stage application process.

You all know that ARX is working better with high temperatures.
This goes for RVS, too.
 
RVS cleans the metal just like arx, and it removes all deposits within 248 miles.

I think arx takes more miles to clean, many many more miles and miles.
 
If you really like it to take so long before it does anything, then you should develop a product that need 200000 miles to do the cleaning.
Just get some help from Frank.
 
What is the year, make, engine and mileage on this vehicle?

Just because the filter doesn't look like it is caked with mud doesn't mean the product didn't liquify some deposits and them deposit them deep into the filter media and start plugging it up.

It might be the pic but it looks to me like the sides of the filter can have gritty deposits on it.
 
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Yes, so am I.

That's another product, that I unfortunately didn't know about, until after I had put RVS in my own engines.

I haven't forgot about it, it's just an incredible laid back friend of mine, that owns the test car.

He doesn't see the importance of making things happen.
 
It is funny... auto-rx is a "slow gentle cleaner."

Yet "It may be possible that there was a fair amount of [censored] in the oil pan that got loosened up and semi blinded the pick up screen."

That would be some serious chunks to blind the oil pick up screen, yet no evidence in the filter.

Remember the auto-rx claim repeatedly posted by its inventor, along the lines that it will "slowly liquify sludge driving it to the filter."
 
And you should see some of the filters that I've removed and cut open, not a pretty sight. I'll have filters from BMW, Mazda, and Outback engines to cut open soon, pictures will follow of course.
 
Originally Posted By: BearZDefect
It is funny... auto-rx is a "slow gentle cleaner."

Yet "It may be possible that there was a fair amount of [censored] in the oil pan that got loosened up and semi blinded the pick up screen."

That would be some serious chunks to blind the oil pick up screen, yet no evidence in the filter.

Remember the auto-rx claim repeatedly posted by its inventor, along the lines that it will "slowly liquify sludge driving it to the filter."


A product that can Liquify sludge is good, a product making chunks is not so good.
 
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I wanted to point this out, and this may help some people out. I had some noises during the Clean Phase when it was cold out as well as a few noises during the Rinse Phase when it was cold.

My take on this is that it does not matter becuase my car is still running fine, the noises did go away. I only have guesses about these noises, but I will say that since I have not had any engine problems, this noise thing is just a noise thing and nothing else.
 
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c3po,

Perhaps this will answer questions in regards o ARX and engine noise.

When proper lubrication fails to occur, uneven hot spots are created underneath contamination deposits. The result? A dramatic decrease in your engine's performance.
It's inevitable: engine sludge and contamination build-up are working together this very second with the sole objective of killing your engine.
As you start to get oil on metal that has been starved for lubrication there will be noises. By the Rinse Mode they are gone and won’t come back.
 
Originally Posted By: dbdeland
c3po,

As you start to get oil on metal that has been starved for lubrication there will be noises. By the Rinse Mode they are gone and won’t come back.


Wouldn't metal that was starved for lubrication make noise, because it is starved? Once the lubrication reaches that starved metal the noise would stop. Sounds like you might have it backwards, or I should have slept a little later this morning.
 
Originally Posted By: ADFD1
Originally Posted By: dbdeland
c3po,

As you start to get oil on metal that has been starved for lubrication there will be noises. By the Rinse Mode they are gone and won’t come back.


Wouldn't metal that was starved for lubrication make noise, because it is starved? Once the lubrication reaches that starved metal the noise would stop. Sounds like you might have it backwards, or I should have slept a little later this morning.


AD, you are correct, I could never figure out why my engine made noises with arx when it was cold out, if metal was starved from lubrication it would be making noise all of the time, many people have said they never had this noise before using arx, it only came on when they put it in there engines.

I wish I had a concrete answer to this question of why people are hearing noises after putting in arx.
 
I had them and it was simple to reason. You have a supply and outlets. You can surely reason that they may not be in the same state of restriction/fouling.

This is not an atypical occurrence. It can be unsettling to the uninitiated. It appears to be so even if you tell someone it might be a side effect.
 
The noise you here is similer to a heart murmer!!! When my docter checked my cholesterol leval's he said he could practically here the blood make a russling noise in the blockages!!

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
I had them and it was simple to reason. You have a supply and outlets. You can surely reason that they may not be in the same state of restriction/fouling.

This is not an atypical occurrence. It can be unsettling to the uninitiated. It appears to be so even if you tell someone it might be a side effect.
 
Originally Posted By: dbdeland
The result of many years of relentless testing, Auto-Rx's® breakthrough formulation can start saving you time, money, and stress the second you begin using it in your car!


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Originally Posted By: c3po

AD, you are correct, I could never figure out why my engine made noises with arx when it was cold out, if metal was starved from lubrication it would be making noise all of the time, many people have said they never had this noise before using arx, it only came on when they put it in there engines.

I wish I had a concrete answer to this question of why people are hearing noises after putting in arx.


Easy, ARX is causing dry starts. Probably, because ARX is interfering with the residual oil film and/or cold cranking abilities of the oil.

Is this a good thing to be doing? Probably not.
 
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