ARX in the winter

[goixiz]

lately in the AM (low 30s) the temperature has been in the low 30s here and i like to try the ARX on my car.

The ARX in the garage will not pour and its 50+deg. I am just concerned about ARX in the car which is probably in the 20 degs. I know ill be using 10W-30 pennzoil (yellow) -

Will this be an issue or a concern to use ARX in the cold months

 

[INDYMAC]

I used it last winter here in Texas and it did just fine. The trick is to warm up the ARX either by letting it sit in the sun for awhile, or set it in some hot water for a few minutes before pouring it into your vehicle. Allow the bottle to drain completely into your crankcase when adding it to your engine. I used 10W-30 dino for my applications too.

 

[HTSS_TR]

You can leave the bottle in engine compartment, but not near exhausts, the day before you do oil change. On the day you do oil change drive the car as normal then do oil change after driving, at that time the ARX bottle is very warm and it can be poured very easy.

 

[demarpaint]

I leave it in the house, take it outside when I'm about to add it, no problems so far. Once its heated up and mixed with the oil it will be fine, and shouldn't alter the oil in any way.

Frank D

 

[BearZDefect]

Perhaps the OP is asking about its viscosity effect on the lubricant as a whole, rather than how to pour it in, noting that by itself auto-rx is very viscous at 50 degrees, let alone sub-freezing.

 

[demarpaint]

It shouldn't alter the oil in any way once mixed into it.

HTH
Frank D

 

[MolaKule]

See above thread:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/auto-rx-is-think-as-glue.96159/

 

[Mystic]

I prefer to do Auto-RX cleaning in the summertime because of how thick Auto-RX is and also because conventional oils can be used in the summertime. I prefer synthetic oils in the wintertime. Conventional oils work better with Auto-RX.

 

[sprintman]

Hold bottle under the hot water tap.

 

[goixiz]

sorry for the confusion - I have no issues bout pour temperature
all i need to do is keep it in the house >68 ded F.

Is my concern after mixing in the engine with engine oil and how it performs when cold starts. I read the other post but im still not convinced that its ok for the winter months and besides my car is fairly well maintained and low OCI (3-4k with GC). And the not so great OA tends to add the question in my mind about using ARX in the winter

Ill just wait till spring to try the ARX on my 92x. Wifes car civic LX 2007 does have ARX+penzoil 5w-20 in it for over 1k miles and will do the short OCI 2500 (so should be before Jan).

 

[Frank]

Don,t just read posts.Read the Auto-Rx web Site this is straight from our FAQ. Auto-Rx will reduce wear on cold starts (it has its own friction modifires)
Auto-Rx uses oil as a carrier only.It does nothing but clean
in Artic or Tropical Temps

Q: Using Auto-Rx in Frigid Cold Conditions
A: Auto-Rx is a highly concentrated combination of ester based cleaning components. In its concentrated form Auto-Rx is not flowable from its container below 32 degrees F. However, once dispersed into your host motor oil, it has little to no effect on the pour point of the host oil. In cold weather conditions, follow these instructions: dispense hot tap water into a bowl or container that will have adequate capacity to submerse the Auto-Rx container up to the bottle neck. Insert the bottle so that the neck is above the high water mark. Allow the bottle to stand in the warm water for 2 minutes. If the bottle of Auto-Rx has been subject to below freezing temperatures, you should repeat this process twice - refilling the hot water container and re-submersing the Auto-Rx. In the meantime, warm the motor to operating temperature. With a warm motor and Auto-Rx warmed to at least room temperature, you are ready to proceed with your Auto-Rx application.

 

[goixiz]

i may just try this:
mixing a quart of oil and 3oz of ARX in a glass beaker and place a spinner (magnetic stirrer) in my lab and let it stir in room temperature and then elevate to 100F and let it sit and see if it the same consistancy as the host oil (engine oil)

 

[Rick20]

Cleaning performance of ARX is not appreciably changed between cold or warm outside air temperature. I think you will find that the oil temperature is roughly the same on a warmed up motor whether it is 20 degrees out or 80 degrees outside. UOA has always shown the viscocity of the host oil to be unchanged or in spec with the cleaning dose installed.

For those that favor the pour point improvements of a synthetic during the cold winter months, I would recommend a group III synthetic for the best cleaning results.

 

[Gary Allan]

Originally Posted By: goixiz
i may just try this:
mixing a quart of oil and 3oz of ARX in a glass beaker and place a spinner (magnetic stirrer) in my lab and let it stir in room temperature and then elevate to 100F and let it sit and see if it the same consistancy as the host oil (engine oil)


Do a heat and spin when you do. TallPaul did this with, iirc, monograde 20w-20/10w-40 conventional blend. I'm not sure if it did it virgin or after a 100 mile in engine deal. He did a freezer test and could find on difference on the cold end of it.

 

[BrianWC]

Why all the sudden after six years has arx become too thick to use in winter?

 

[Frank]

This cutomer just finished a sludge removal plus he did an emissions test (posted on bitog yesterday) Below is where he lives and did the application.

I started my two sludge removal applications last December and finished it around July this year.
I live in New Jersey where our late fall and winters are pretty cold.
You can definitely use my post if needed.
Jared

 

[jef1ge]

Keep seeing this, decided to post. Did a auto-x on a 85 Cherokee 2.5 4 banger in the winter couple of years ago, did clean and rinse. Had some cold morning starts as recall about -27f. Made some noises that would raise the hair on the back of yr head.. Since, now engine runs fine, is very quite and is very smooth. No leaks and would not hesitate to do it again. Oil was 5-30 supertech.

Jeff