Anybody view the Ukraine youtube videos? Just how deadly are those things? Is most of this AI generated propaganda? Kind of leaves you with the impression that infantry in the open are dead ducks. I have a hard time understanding how a drone can take out a main battle tank. Just looks to me that it can't carry a large enough payload.
Armed FPV drones
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I've seen quite a few videos where a drone has basically flown straight into the crew hatch. I've only started playing with my personal drone, its not easy to fly, but I have no doubts military class can do such things. I think my personal drone could carry a half pound before having a little trouble but no real plans testing that out.
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I've watched thousands of them. How deadly? Very, perhaps you think tanks are massively armored all over but they are not. Tanks have the thickest armor on the front with thickness lessening on the sides, rear and top, with eggshell like armor that can barely stop small arms in the weakest spots in the previously less exposed parts on top, which is why many missiles now skip the front or sides and soar up and strike the top of the turret, like an FPV. Both sides now have a difficult time operating any numbers of soldiers in the open so they have to send them out in pairs typically and literally infiltrate to the front line. As for the drone payload, substitute "bazooka", "panzerfaust", LAW, or NLAW, but more effective as they drop on the thinnest part of the tanks armor, the top and engine blocks. The tank videos vary but usually you are seeing (say) a T-72B3 that has been disabled by a hit to the track, effectively making it like a car with two flat tires (a mobility kill). Once immobilized the crew bails out usually leaving the hatches open in either a panic or a bid to seek mercy and have FPV strike drones focus on the tank and not hunting them running away..
As for the drones' payload, you are often seeing an elapsed video of a tank sustaining multiple, sometimes dozens of hits, from shaped charged anti-tank grenades with some getting into the usually open hatches. Also, the drones work in tandem with infantry using weapons like Javelins or even land mines and artillery to finish off the tanks. So no, especially in the advent of "hanger tanks", it takes a lot of drones to detonate the tanks own shells and fuel, but still a very good bargain for the drone operators who destroy several million dollar vehicles for a few thousand$.
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Jackson_Slugger
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The real terrifying thing is that "motherdrones" serve as AI platforms marshalling and directing other FPV ones, like Skynet....
You mean UK? Both on and under water drones are supplied by UK and most likely operated by Brits too just like Patriot SAMs are operated by US operators.
As far as drones go, UA has 'baba yaga' drones with payload up to 150kg, that's like two of my size guys.
Nothing in any of the articles I read mentioned UK or even hinted at them
Ukraine has developed some very effective low tech drones and the US is 2-3 years behind them in anti drone technology
Drones can carry anti tank munitions similar to those used in 'jumping' anti tank mines, they are not too heavy and are designed to take tank out from above.
Anti drone tech as far as I understand falls into two main categories, one is where you break comms with enemy drone and the other where you take over controls and it's more advanced. Both sides have drones meant to eliminate other drones too.
Anti drone tech as far as I understand falls into two main categories, one is where you break comms with enemy drone and the other where you take over controls and it's more advanced. Both sides have drones meant to eliminate other drones too.
3rd is AI tech, you can’t take it over or break coms and it can be designed for anti personnel, anti armor or specific targets & you literally have to shoot it down
This is the tech that’s so very problematic and ahead of the curve
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You mean "Electronic Warfare" LOL? BTW, no one "takes control" of the others drones. They attempt to jam them last minute to force a miss, but now often fail due to frequency hopping by the drones in the terminal phase, and more often than not the so-called jammers were never really that effective as the drone is locked in and too close to really not hit. It's why drone footage often gets grainy and snowy when about to hit
Yes, some "bomber drones" use mines. FPVs have used everything from 70 year old anti-tank grenades meant to be thrown by very unfortunate infantry post-WWII to modern RPG warheads. Some can even drop streams of molten thermite and metal or WP on guys in a trench-line...
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The FPV drones are Chinese drones with explosives attached to them. The Ukrainians were ahead of Russia in this area at the beginning of the conflict. These are probably the nastiest tools used currently against infantry.
The naval drones Ukraine uses are British - hardware is from the UK, intelligence is from the US, operators are probably British "volunteers" as well, the guidance systems are US. Russia are far behind the UK in this area and their main issue is communication - they don't have the equivalent of Starlink used for this.
The naval drones Ukraine uses are British - hardware is from the UK, intelligence is from the US, operators are probably British "volunteers" as well, the guidance systems are US. Russia are far behind the UK in this area and their main issue is communication - they don't have the equivalent of Starlink used for this.
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