Are u fellas still dumping break in oil early ?
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I too would like to know if early oil change is necessary or not.
My last car, I dumped it at 1k on odo. Now I am in a predicament. I bought a new car last week and am thinking whether to use the free oil change to change out early. You know.. metal shavings and aluminium engine and all...
My last car, I dumped it at 1k on odo. Now I am in a predicament. I bought a new car last week and am thinking whether to use the free oil change to change out early. You know.. metal shavings and aluminium engine and all...
I changed the oil right before my G35 hit 1000 miles. The dealership used Kendall synthetic blend and I used that oil with a couple changes until 10k miles when I switched to Mobil 1 full synthetic.
I have always done a 1000 mile oil change and never had a problem.
Every engine I've owned in the past 30plus years is still on the road unless it was taken out by an accident.
Many over 200k and one over 300k. (My family and friends love to buy my used cars. So I can keep an eye on them for a long time)
I just got a new Outback and will be changing the oil tomarrow when I get home. Mileage? should be right at 1000 miles.
Take care, Bill
Every engine I've owned in the past 30plus years is still on the road unless it was taken out by an accident.
Many over 200k and one over 300k. (My family and friends love to buy my used cars. So I can keep an eye on them for a long time)
I just got a new Outback and will be changing the oil tomarrow when I get home. Mileage? should be right at 1000 miles.
Take care, Bill
What does BMW suggest for break-in?
I always like changing oil early on a new engine....but, more and more, I follow the manufacturer's break-in procedure.
I think I would follow the BMW break-in procedure.
I always like changing oil early on a new engine....but, more and more, I follow the manufacturer's break-in procedure.
I think I would follow the BMW break-in procedure.
Triple_Se7en
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I've owned 13 new vehicles in the past 38 years. I have-yet to dump before 3K. I drive my rust buckets to the junkyard 15-18 years after I purchase them - most-all with near clear dipsticks.... usually between 200-300K on the odometer. Nothing's ever been wrong with any of my engines. You bought that oil that's in the new vehicle. The price of that oil is built-in to the price of that vehicle. Dumping it early is like throwing money away. Not only that, you needlessly add to the environmnetal waste in your community.
BMW seems to have a good 4 year/50K free service plan and an upgrade to 6 year/ 100K service plan.
If I was keeping this car forever, which I do; I'd look at this service plan closely for oil service and consider following it , or doing an oil change in the middle of the free oil change interval. So if BMW does a free oil change every 15K...then I'd change at 7500 miles using the BMW oil and filter.
That is probably how I'd handle the first oil change...I'd do it halfway through the oil service life monitor, but not reset the monitor.
I'd let the dealership do the second oil change when the oil life monitor indicated the interval was complete.
This way I'm changing the oil twice as often as the OLM says, and my warranty issues should be trouble free.
For most luxury cars, maintenance is a hidden cost to consider. And when you compare maintenance programs, it’s clear they’re not all the same.
In fact, the BMW Maintenance Program* is one of the most comprehensive programs in its class and it offers the longest coverage period.
We cover all factory-recommended maintenance at no charge for four years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first, as well as items that need replacement due to regular wear and tear.
Your maintenance costs:
Scheduled inspections: $0
Brake Pads: $0
Brake Rotors: $0
Engine Belts: $0
Oil Changes: $0
Wiper Blade Inserts: $0
Inspections: $0
Fluid Services: $0
By offering such a comprehensive maintenance program with every new vehicle, we’re able to help you manage the cost of ownership and keep maintenance costs down.
And since all services are done at an authorized BMW center, by a BMW certified technician who has been specially trained by us, we can guarantee that only original BMW parts will be used. In other words, your BMW will be maintained by our standards, which are, admittedly, higher than most.
To receive these services at no cost, just schedule an appointment at your BMW center while your vehicle is covered by the program. Items replaced due to wear and tear must be worn down past factory-recommended standards.
For even more value, extend your plan for another 2 years or 50,000 miles.
When you purchase your BMW you can choose to upgrade your BMW Maintenance Plan for an additional 2 years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first. This phase begins after the initial four year or 50,000 mile plan expires and it offers the same benefits and ownership value.
* The BMW Maintenance Program covers all factory-recommended maintenance on all model year 2006 vehicles and newer vehicles, as determined by the Service Level Indicator, for four years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first. Exclusions from coverage: gasoline, gasoline additives, windshield washer additives, tires, wheels, wheel alignment, tire balancing and rotation. All work must be performed by an authorized BMW center. See the Service and Warranty Information booklet for more details and exclusions.
If I was keeping this car forever, which I do; I'd look at this service plan closely for oil service and consider following it , or doing an oil change in the middle of the free oil change interval. So if BMW does a free oil change every 15K...then I'd change at 7500 miles using the BMW oil and filter.
That is probably how I'd handle the first oil change...I'd do it halfway through the oil service life monitor, but not reset the monitor.
I'd let the dealership do the second oil change when the oil life monitor indicated the interval was complete.
This way I'm changing the oil twice as often as the OLM says, and my warranty issues should be trouble free.
For most luxury cars, maintenance is a hidden cost to consider. And when you compare maintenance programs, it’s clear they’re not all the same.
In fact, the BMW Maintenance Program* is one of the most comprehensive programs in its class and it offers the longest coverage period.
We cover all factory-recommended maintenance at no charge for four years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first, as well as items that need replacement due to regular wear and tear.
Your maintenance costs:
Scheduled inspections: $0
Brake Pads: $0
Brake Rotors: $0
Engine Belts: $0
Oil Changes: $0
Wiper Blade Inserts: $0
Inspections: $0
Fluid Services: $0
By offering such a comprehensive maintenance program with every new vehicle, we’re able to help you manage the cost of ownership and keep maintenance costs down.
And since all services are done at an authorized BMW center, by a BMW certified technician who has been specially trained by us, we can guarantee that only original BMW parts will be used. In other words, your BMW will be maintained by our standards, which are, admittedly, higher than most.
To receive these services at no cost, just schedule an appointment at your BMW center while your vehicle is covered by the program. Items replaced due to wear and tear must be worn down past factory-recommended standards.
For even more value, extend your plan for another 2 years or 50,000 miles.
When you purchase your BMW you can choose to upgrade your BMW Maintenance Plan for an additional 2 years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first. This phase begins after the initial four year or 50,000 mile plan expires and it offers the same benefits and ownership value.
* The BMW Maintenance Program covers all factory-recommended maintenance on all model year 2006 vehicles and newer vehicles, as determined by the Service Level Indicator, for four years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first. Exclusions from coverage: gasoline, gasoline additives, windshield washer additives, tires, wheels, wheel alignment, tire balancing and rotation. All work must be performed by an authorized BMW center. See the Service and Warranty Information booklet for more details and exclusions.
Dumped mine at 2500mi for Havoline.
Patman
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Gonna take a sample of that oil and send it for analysis Bill?
I love seeing UOAs on factory fills, it usually shows a lot less wear metals than people expect.
I've always bought new motorcycles, cars and trucks since 1978 and followed the owners manual recommendations. Never had an oil related problem. Kept most of them at least 10 years. Some as long as 23 years. I've been extending oil and filter change intervals in all my vehicles to 12,000 miles or once a year, whichever is first, for the past 3 years without oil related problems. When I sell them, I get top dollar.
For break in, they just recommended their covered OCI which is around 15K, *based on the OCI lights* or every year, regardless of lights or not.
I tend to do mine annually during winter/summer tar swaps which generally equate to 5K/7K on average. It's not worth the hrs drive to get a free oil change at the dealer.
I tend to do mine annually during winter/summer tar swaps which generally equate to 5K/7K on average. It's not worth the hrs drive to get a free oil change at the dealer.
I change oil as soon as I get home. If anyone here can tell me what break-in oil is I'd like to know. I've seen lots of uoa's on new vehicles and the wear metals are enough to get me to change. I've only made my choice based on previous lab work. If you don't keep cars and it's too much trouble then don't bother. If a vehicle's recommended schedule is 5k miles/6 months, many new vehicles are out of time while sitting on the lot. Maintenance schedules are for the new car owner, to keep cost down. The maintenance can catch up with you, once you approach 100k miles. You can be a little more agressive if you plan to keep the car and avoid problems later. Many vehicles off-lease are financially used up. You get them for a good price and you're the one that can play catch-up or just drive it to the next owner. That first oil change is just a safety check. There is no such thing as break in oil and those goofy uoa's on factory fills is the assembly lube, and possibly an oil that you will never see on a retail shelf. It's going to be interesting to see these BMW's with their new schedules.
I have gotten into the habit of not changing it until the first recomended oil change.
Approximately 15,000 miles using an oil life monitoring system or 1 year whichever is first using proper oils that meet or exceed what is listed in your owners manual shouldn't be a problem. They've done that in Europe for years. You may have problems if you use El Cheapo oils and and filters. Amsoil has made these recommendations for 35 years and haven't had an oil related failure yet. Plus filters are better than ever. All 3,000 of the Texas State Police cars have been doing 20,000 severe service mile severe service oil changes for several years now with their mid grade oil with no problems.
Can anyone tell me how to take oil sample (quantity?) and where/how to send it in Toronto?
I'd like to see more data on that. I wonder how much make up oil is part of the 20K success?
My only experience with break in oil is in Cat diesel engines. Years ago, there was a dedicated break in oil. Now, I've come to learn that the original oil as delivered is regular 15-40 with red dye in it. Is it the same with cars? Or is there still break in oil?
While it may be OK in its class, the general consensus is that the BMW's free maintenance is more like "no maintenance" compared to previous years when maintenance was not free. Coincidentally, the same time that this free maintenance appeared, the intervals for things like oil change, brake fluid change, coolant change doubled, and lifetime fluids appeared (transmission).
Here is the summarized data: http://www.upmpg.com/tdps_saves.htm . I think the UOA's are amazing. About 1/10th the wear per mile when compared to conventional oil. Look how the TBN has held up.
I know they have switched to the new EaO filter as I have been called to locate replacement ones. I would guess they are using the new EaO filters so they don't have to take them in at 10-12K and have them replaced. So I think the only topping off occurs when they are in for items that need more attention than oil changes, like brake pad replacements from what I've been told by other police officers.
I have been using Amsoil for several years in my other vehicles and never have to top off using 12,000/1 year oil change intervals, and guess the police don't top off much either.
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