Are Subaru engines made of glass?

I don't know about that.

Driven by kids with no respect. This ain't a '67 Chevelle with a M22.

Now, the Borg T5 in the old fox body's was and is fragile.

WRX and STi - Can't be doing 5000 rpm clutch dumps and no lift shifts.

Again place blame at the doorstep of YT or any social media for stoopid begat stoopid
 
We have owned eight or nine over the past 30 years, Frankly, I don't think the 2.5 is very good anymore.
The FB2.0 was O.K. in PI trim, then much more powerful on the road - but noisy - in D.I. trim - but my wife doesn't give it good fuel.

Xtrek is very affordable and solid and a lot of car for 24k simolions in mid trim - even bought during the car shortage.

I would love a new BRZ if they can keep the silicone case and pan sealants out of the oil pickup!
Jeepers! Dang Robot these days doing sloppy work.

And toyota's hand in the pot? they are ruining subaru as they are "improving" subaru.
 
SubieRubyRoo said:
You should have easily been able to find better answers to your “research” than just regurgitating several internet myths. As several have pointed out, for every single true issue with a Subaru, there are probably 100+ cars without it, but there are 99 people who don’t know the facts and simply blow it out of proportion.

On this list there are several Subaru models more likely to make it to 250k miles than several other Honda or Toyota models, and certainly far better results than the domestic manufacturers.

That’s the problem with people blindly believing hearsay, trash-talk, and emotional idiots on the internet- the “info” they think they’re getting rarely lines up with the actual truth.

https://www.iseecars.com/longest-lasting-cars-study
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Are you suggesting that AWD/4WD does not add to the cost of ownership vs. 2wd ? It's pretty much a given for any brand, and the reason I avoid them for MY personal wants/needs.

At least 2% of specific model Subaru owners experienced severe oil consumption issues and difficulty getting Subaru to assist them in the early 2010's. I avoided all brands that were experiencing oil consumption issues in those years.

My entire first post is about wading through media amplification. I shared experience dissecting and discerning the same stereotype issues researching lowly Jeep Patriots. My concerns, as presented, are facts, not myths.
 
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We've had four Subies and they all had engines made of light alloy.
Nor sure what models had glass engines.
More seriously, these cars require a bit more maintenance and repair than have the Hondas we've had in larger numbers over the years, but nothing too outrageous.
The engines, a couple of 2.2s and a couple of 2.5s have been problem free.
The AWD system is about as durable and reliable as any hammer.
I'd recommend a Subaru to anyone.
 
Old 93 Legacy, did a 2.0 JDM some years ago, now leaking, as was the original engine. Other than ending up leaking oil they are great vehicles at least from that era. The engines hold up better than many other makes do, pretty much no mechanical problems with them.
Can't say that for some brand new stuff now.
 
ARCOgraphite said:
We have owned eight or nine over the past 30 years, Frankly, I don't think the 2.5 is very good anymore.
The FB2.0 was O.K. in PI trim, then much more powerful on the road - but noisy - in D.I. trim - but my wife doesn't give it good fuel.

Xtrek is very affordable and solid and a lot And toyota's hand in the pot? they are ruining subaru as they are "improving" subaru.
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doitmyself said:
Are you suggesting that AWD/4WD does not add to the cost of ownership vs. 2wd ? It's pretty much a given for any brand, and the reason I avoid them for MY personal wants/needs.

At least 2% of specific model Subaru owners experienced severe oil consumption issues and difficulty getting Subaru to assist them in the early 2010's. I avoided all brands that were experiencing oil consumption issues in those years.

My entire first post is about wading through media amplification. I shared experience dissecting and discerning the same stereotype issues researching lowly Jeep Patriots. My concerns, as presented, are facts, not myths.
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Sure, there are a few extra costs: 3 quarts of gear oil, every 30-50k. That’s about it. I know this pretty well, because I’ve owned 6 Subies and maintained them alongside my wife & kids’ FWD vehicles. Then, much more rarely, but on par with other vehicles, you’ll have wheel bearings and CV axles.

Regarding your 2% number during the 2013-2014 timeframe, mainly Foresters, we’re talking probably 40,000 total vehicles, so ~800ish affected engines. Certainly concerning, but manageable, but hopefully you can easily see how if even half of those 800 are on 2-3 message boards and share their problem in multiple threads, the 800 appears to balloon to something like 800,000. Meanwhile, the 98% motored on with minimal to no issue.

Everyone’s free to believe what they want, but my 15+ years and hundreds of thousands of miles with Subaru have actually been less eventful and less expensive than my experience with other manufacturers over the same timeframe. ✌️
 
Every four cylinder engine I've ever owned had one head gasket. Subaru's four cylinder engines have two. They have double the chance for head gasket issues by design. A V6 also has two head gaskets, but at least with a V6 you get more power in exchange for the added complexity.
 
Elkins45 said:
Every four cylinder engine I've ever owned had one head gasket. Subaru's four cylinder engines have two. They have double the chance for head gasket issues by design. A V6 also has two head gaskets, but at least with a V6 you get more power in exchange for the added complexity.
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A Ford Duratec 2.5 V6 and an EJ253 2.5H4 make similar power but the Subaru's TQ comes in sooner & lower. So that argument is out the window.
 
two-up said:
I challenge anyone with any year Subaru to send out an oil sample to a lab which can specifically test for glycol and then come and post about how great the Subaru engine is. Subaru is categorically and unequivocally the most over rated vehicle on the planet.

Direct injection AND turbo the double kiss of death for an allready seriously flawed engine-read open deck.
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Welcome to yesterday. The headgasket issue was resolved in 2011. Just like GM intake gasket issues were resolved in 2004 after a 10 year problem.
 
My Outback is currently at 261,xxx miles. I love it. It's been very reliable. Generally pretty easy to work on. Sure, head gaskets are an issue, but there's a good fix with MLS gaskets. The internet is a great place to go if you want confirmation bias. Every grumpy person with a gripe about something will find a way to say it.
 
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