Are Ester based Synthetics really better ?

[Y_K]

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Who makes a castor based PCMO?


Gott, some ppl are serious 24/7.
Although it may be used for constipation, it is not a preferred treatment, because it can produce painful cramps, fecal incontinence and explosive diarrhea. Its action can go on for hours, sometimes unpredictably and powerfully causing an involuntary bowel movement at inconvenient locations and during sleep.

As thick as possible, CATERHAM, as thin as necessary..

 

[carwreck]

Originally Posted By: Y_K
As to whether it is 'better', it depends on your application. For certain applications Castor oil is more effective.

Blendzall Racing CASTOR
"Highest and purest grade, cleanest burning degummed castor oil made today. Formulated to prolong engine life..by reducing wear to vital engine parts in all gasoline/alcohol high-performance 4-cycle air- or water-cooled engines."

 

[Ducati996]

I grew up next to a junk yard & spent we spent our days raising he#@ in there. I was very curious about engines and would take them apart to see what’s in there. I recall many times finding engines that were bottom side up exposed to the weather with the oil pan off that had water sitting in them for years.
I removed many rod and main bearing caps out of curiosity and always found oil on the bearings, no rust what so ever and this was back in the 60’s.
There were no ester based oils back then.

 

[LeakySeals]

Mobil 1 doesn't stick to the engine, at all. Nice for oil changes but dry as a bone overnight. Which leads into another common topic, which one's quieter. Maybe the oil sticking to the engine provides a sound insulator.

 

[CATERHAM]

Originally Posted By: carwreck
Originally Posted By: Y_K
As to whether it is 'better', it depends on your application. For certain applications Castor oil is more effective.

Blendzall Racing CASTOR
"Highest and purest grade, cleanest burning degummed castor oil made today. Formulated to prolong engine life..by reducing wear to vital engine parts in all gasoline/alcohol high-performance 4-cycle air- or water-cooled engines."

Yes in my racing days as a kid we used Castrol 'R' bean oil in our racing bikes. It was the guaranteed cure for seisure prone two stroke engines but oxidized rapidly in four stroke app's clogging oil lines if left to cool in an engine (not very practical for steet use). Castor oil also is not miscible with mineral oil or even with gasoline very well for that matter (had to give our pre-mixed a good shaking every time before using).

The bio-ester plant based motor oils that RLI uses don't castor oil but primarily corn, soy and sunflower.
G-Oil in lard or talow based.

 

[Nickdfresh]

Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Mobil 1 doesn't stick to the engine, at all. Nice for oil changes but dry as a bone overnight. Which leads into another common topic, which one's quieter. Maybe the oil sticking to the engine provides a sound insulator.


In the dozens of times I've used Mobil 1, I've never seen the engine "dry as a bone?" Do you have pic's of this fascinating phenomena?

 

[DragRace]

Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Mobil 1 doesn't stick to the engine, at all. Nice for oil changes but dry as a bone overnight. Which leads into another common topic, which one's quieter. Maybe the oil sticking to the engine provides a sound insulator.


We just torn down a motor last weekend that was run in a 66' Chevelle at the race track we goto. They use 10w30 Mobil 1 and it had plenty of oil film inside the motor,so not sure where your getting this "dry as a bone" idea from.The car sat for 2 weeks also,so again,your statement means not so much.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: Y_K
As thick as possible, CATERHAM, as thin as necessary..


The perfect target for any laxative!

 

[Bruce T]

Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: wjhughes420384
it was a 5w30 red line that threw a code of moisture in the oil,


If it has a dielectric sensor, it will read out of scale. That has been my experience with Q torque power oil while using my oilyser. I could never find confirmation it contained esters though.


friendly_jacek, what is "oilyser?"

 

[friendly_jacek]

Originally Posted By: Bruce T
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: wjhughes420384
it was a 5w30 red line that threw a code of moisture in the oil,


If it has a dielectric sensor, it will read out of scale. That has been my experience with Q torque power oil while using my oilyser. I could never find confirmation it contained esters though.


friendly_jacek, what is "oilyser?"


http://www.epinions.com/review/Oilyzer_Engine_Oil_Tester_epi/content_509719907972?sb=1

 

[Bruce T]

Thanks, I was mystified.

 

[OldCowboy]

friendly_jacek: The website for the oilyser no longer exists. Too bad, I was going to get one.

 

[friendly_jacek]

it's called lubricheck now @ http://lubricheck.com/

It that company had any sense they would advertise here on BITOG. The admin should give them a call.