Applying wax by hand, no buffer or pad

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Has anybody ever tried this?

I've read many times that the best way to apply pure carnauba wax is with your bare hands. I tried it years back and didn't notice much of a difference. I still use a pad to put it on.

I came across this vid on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkmZveqyU5E and this guy does it bare-handed. Of course, his wax costs US 9,360.00 !
 
He didn't even use the 2 bucket wash method. Which proves he has no idea what he's doing.

He is just contaminating the wax with dirt and oil from his hands.
 
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If its the video I'm thinking of I think its a different wax than we can get over the counter. so to speak. I have dial up and it'd take all night to load that sucker.

If its the video of the $10 000 detail job and he hand waxes the maserati, its a special wax which is activated by the oils in his hands if I understood it right. I think if we tried that with the regualar autoparts store products, we'd wind up with a mess.

I just stick with microfibre cloths, or the buffer with cotton pad for removal.
 
Originally Posted By: sunfire
He didn't even use the 2 bucket wash method. Which proves he has no idea what he's doing.

He is just contaminating the wax with dirt and oil from his hands.

The two bucket method is critical for routine washing, but if you're washing just before machine polishing it really doesn't make much difference. A single wash, done properly, isn't going to instill much at all in the way of marring and, again, the intent is to machine polish anyway. Bare hand application is actually a recommended procedure by the Zymol Estate Wax folks. The detailer in question is a gentleman named Paul Dalton and I can assure you, he most definitely knows what he's doing. Now, I certainly don't believe he's worth what he charges but if he can get it, more power to him. I know plenty of guys who have prepped multi million dollar vehicles for shows like Pebble Beach, etc and they certainly command serious money but not the level he gets. I'd put their skill up against his any day of the week. But I'd probably put his marketing skills against theirs just as often!

There is a lot of money in properly prepping a classic vehicle at the end of the restoration process. It's fairly common for the final wetsand/cut/buff process to run $15,000 or more. But keep in mind this is on a car worth a few million dollars, not your "average" Ferrari. Certainly not on your father's Oldsmobile.
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Originally Posted By: sunfire
He didn't even use the 2 bucket wash method. Which proves he has no idea what he's doing.

He is just contaminating the wax with dirt and oil from his hands.


That gentleman is one of the Premier detailers in all of Europe. He is sought out by the uber wealthy to take care of their cars and will earn $10,000 and more on a single detail much less a restoration. You're right, he obviously has no idea what he is doing
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Perhaps I'm a bit too paranoid about car washing. As I was watching the video... I was thinking about the filthy water and dirt at the bottom of my water bucket.
 
Originally Posted By: sunfire
He didn't even use the 2 bucket wash method. Which proves he has no idea what he's doing.

He is just contaminating the wax with dirt and oil from his hands.


Oh please. You really think he would have the clientele that he has if he had no idea what he was doing?
 
Guys,

He is one of the best and commands the price he gets by NOT screwing up some of the most valuable cars in the world. By the way, Zymol Royale Glaze is currently running $8416 a pot and the best that they have (Solaris) is an edition limited to 25 containers (there are 5 left if you want one) with a price tag of $45,000. That includes the gold mixing spoon by the way…
 
Originally Posted By: harrydog
Originally Posted By: sunfire
He didn't even use the 2 bucket wash method. Which proves he has no idea what he's doing.

He is just contaminating the wax with dirt and oil from his hands.


Oh please. You really think he would have the clientele that he has if he had no idea what he was doing?


It's my understanding that he uses a super high tech type bucket that has a built in filter that immediately dispenses dirt and particulates to the bottom of the bucket where they don't interact with the clean water. I do agree that he probably knows more about the detailing than the average joe, but you do understand that he markets himself as an exotic car detailer that caters to an exclusive customer base. His customers don't care about price, all they know is that he uses a $10,000 wax so he must be good? He probably has great references as these guys travel in the same circles. Lucien notices the beautiful glow on Prescott's 2 million dollar Enzo and Prescott hands Lucien this guy's card. It's all about how you market yourself.

But back on topic- so the general consensus is that basic OTC waxes don't see any benefit from hand application? I could see almost where it is the same general idea as an electric buffer, in that the heat from your hands would work almost the same as the thermal intensity you derive from the buffing motion. My concern would be that the oil from your hands would negate any beneficial detail you would get from using your hands.
 
I've done it...It just makes it easier to reduce the risk of swirls...Applicator pads have fibers that can cause swirling as well as trapping particles in the fibers...With your bare hands it's easy to wipe off between applications so that any captured dust isn't brought to other panels..Plus your hands are smoother than any microfiber or terry cloth.

The downside is it takes alot longer...
 
Originally Posted By: whitesands
Plus your hands are smoother than any microfiber or terry cloth.


I do not believe that.
 
me either.

my hands are so rough and dry right now when I rub a micro fiber towel on my hand it grabs and can hear it grabbing
 
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