Apple May Have Just Made Your Computer Obsolete

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Originally Posted By: gregk24
Just got a Mac Book Pro a week or so ago, loving it so far! One thing is for sure the build quality is superb.


Yup, I have an MBP and a Mac Pro desktop, I run parallels to have Windows on the MBP, mostly for work stuff. It replaced a ThinkPad. The build quality on both is excellent.
 
I can't use a Mac for what I do. I can't even use Linux. The software supports Windows only and even makes older revisions unusable if you have a 64bit processor.
 
Originally Posted By: Prune_Juice
They say that "Once you go Mac you never go back." Or at least the iPhone people say that.

Question: Even if it is a better computer
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.. is it worth it?


I used to buy PC's, but after about 1-2 years, they started to become slow and run terrible. I did not buy the cheapest, but bought mid-level models (Dell, HP, etc.) with decent specs. I got tired of it, so I decided to go buy a low level Mac. Only upgrade was memory. I've been using it now for five years and it still runs like the day I bought it.
 
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I just retired my 10 year old iMac. Nothing really wrong with it, other than I could not upgrade any further. I went and purchased a Mac Mini, as we don't use an actual computer in my house for much. I bought the CPU, a nice 24 inch HP monitor, and I was out about 750 dollars. I'll get another 10 years out of this one, or darn close.

I was always a skeptic on Apple, but having iphones, ipads, and a Mac made me a believer. Everything works so well together, and works so easily.
 
I just bought a used 2013 MBP on eBay and added 16GB RAM for a total of about $500. I can sell my 2010 MBP for $400, so the upgrade cost is minimal.

Try selling a 5 year old PC for more than $50 on eBay...

Much better resale value in the Macs.. it's like the Honda of laptops.
 
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: Srt20
$3000? C'mon man!


By time you upgrade the CPU to 2.8GHz and upgrade the flash storage to 1 terabyte, you're looking at $3199.00 The base model 15 inch is $1999.99


You don't need 1 TB of storage!
 
Designing a new OS to work on 9 year old equipment would mean severely compromised performance. I recently sold a MacBook I've had since 2009 for a couple hundred bucks on eBay. The only thing wrong with it was short battery life. It's worth paying a little more up front for something that will last.

Even if your Mac is too old to get the latest OS it will still work fine for several years anyway. Web protocols and such don't change that fast.

I recently used an old clamshell iBook from 2001 and could still browse the web on it even with it's extremely outdated OS.

I have an iPhone 3GS that still works fine too.
 
Have a late 2012 Mac Mini.. upgraded to the max memory and that's it. Thinking about doing a SSD eventually. Don't see why this wouldn't last at least another 6 years and fit my needs. The 07 HP had before didn't last 2-3 years before problems and is in the junk pile now. Going to get another Mac for the boys, not sure if it'll be iMac or Mini. 10 years sounds like a good time frame IMO, these days people don't even keep their wives that long.
 
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
I was worry for few seconds. The Macs are dead, not the laptop(s) with Window XP.


XP's been dead for about a year now. MS Ended support in 2014. Your old Mac will work just like your old Windows XP machine. Just don't expect any updates from the vendor.

Yup. Good comparison.
 
Originally Posted By: zzyzzx
You don't need 1 TB of storage!


I know but wanted to prove my point on how expensive Macs can get.
I'd be perfectly happy with the base model myself.
 
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: zzyzzx
You don't need 1 TB of storage!


I know but wanted to prove my point on how expensive Macs can get.
I'd be perfectly happy with the base model myself.


And like others have said, you can load up a PC to cost $3k too. I thought we were talking off the shelf.


Either way, I don't care what anybody uses.
 
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Let's say I'm not going to buy a computer that has DRAM soldered on the motherboard and cannot be upgraded.
While getting an old PPC iMac updated at an Apple store, I got to talking to their rep. He mentioned this re: the new iMacs. Said Apple had abandonned modular construction. When it broke or you wanted to add RAM, etc., it had to be returned to be updated! I was rather amazed at this. I lifted one up and they're much lighter than the two older iMacs I have....MUCH lighter.

Apple may no longer be shipping them with mechanical HD's and Ram extensions may now be done externally, vs internally. I don't know. Haven't looked any of this up. They may even be seeing a DT as a digital dinasaur, particularly given how many use tablets or even phones, especially kids.

As for Apple vs. MS, I've now watched this debate from the beginning. I remember CP/M, working on mainframes, and OS/2 WARP. I own both. Still using a 13" blackbook from 07? 08? that I rescued from being disassembled when the neighbors kid dropped it off his bed one-too-many-times. All it needed was a new HD and the dog hair vac'd off the MB and out of the fans. Even found a used battery that'll hold a charge for $5. I plan on re-celling it and the dead pack. OS X is easy to use.

On the other side, finally enjoying having W7 since last Fall. Quite an update from XP which I've used for more than a decade. Dealing with the Dell SFF Optiplex PS issue mentioned in an earlier thread reminded me of typical Dell HW problems.

For those that bash Apple, I'd add you can't even buy a new PS for the above Dell. All I found were "used", and that HW is from 2011. Yet they continue to sell pallet-loads of these things as they come off-lease and label them "refurbished" (which is truly meaningless...) and sell them to unsuspecting customers. Now that's nuts! I never realized this was a serious consequence of their SFF machines. I won't ever make that mistake again. Caveat Emptor!
 
Nobody saw what I saw, the title on the linked article was misleading, it should be "Apple May Have Just Made Your Current MAC's Obsolete", not "Apple May Have Just Made Your Computer Obsolete".

Computer means more than MAC's, it can be laptop, desk top run Window or Linux or other OS's.
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
The Sierra version of MacOS, Apple’s laptop and desktop operating system, makes its debut in the fall, but will not support many of the computers the company sold in 2007, 2008, and 2009[/i]."


Planned obsolescence.

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
I was worry for few seconds. The Macs are dead, not the laptop(s) with Window XP.


XP's been dead for about a year now. MS Ended support in 2014. Your old Mac will work just like your old Windows XP machine. Just don't expect any updates from the vendor.

Yup. Good comparison.


You could install the latest OS on that XP laptop. Not on the Mac. That's the big difference.
 
5 year old used Macs are still plenty powerful and way better than el-cheapo laptops. I bought a $300 Mid-2010 Macbook last year, added more RAM, SSD and dual boot Windows 10. It performs way better than my 2 year old Compaq with a crummy netbook CPU that has a hard time opening the start menu.

From reading that article my Mid 2010 Macbook isn't obsolete yet but I love rocking Win10 for gaming.
 
i still used my 07 mackbook, and 06 macbook pro. however i will send them back to apple here shortly along with my 6 other apple devices for them not letting me update my iphone from my laptop. the EOL they do is [censored]. i'm done with apple.
i built my own PC and run Linux. looks and works just as good as any apple [censored].
 
Originally Posted By: Prune_Juice
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Let's say I'm not going to buy a computer that has DRAM soldered on the motherboard and cannot be upgraded.


Which computer is that?


Aside from the iMac that sleddriver mentioned, AFAIK the MacBook Air has always had DRAM soldered on with no possibility of an upgrade.

So while you might be happy with 128 GB of storage but want 8 GB of RAM, you cannot buy a MacBook Air with 4 GB RAM and 128 GB storage then upgrade the RAM for $20. Instead you have to pay Apple $200 extra for a higher trim level.

Wait, that sounds just like auto-makers!
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Originally Posted By: BearZDefect
Aside from the iMac that sleddriver mentioned, AFAIK the MacBook Air has always had DRAM soldered on with no possibility of an upgrade.

So while you might be happy with 128 GB of storage but want 8 GB of RAM, you cannot buy a MacBook Air with 4 GB RAM and 128 GB storage then upgrade the RAM for $20. Instead you have to pay Apple $200 extra for a higher trim level.

And it's not just Apple either. From what I recall, Microsoft Surface devices are the same way.
 
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