Apple assembling iMacs in the United States?

[rg200amp]

Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Nobody is saying that Apple is solving world hunger here.

I see this as simply starting the conversation about what can be done differently.


+1

Manufacturing is such a small area of the total company. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Apple bringing more of it state side.

In the USA, Apple employees over 50,000 employees directly.

http://www.apple.com/about/job-creation/

I don't think HP, Dell, Acer, Asus, Toshiba, ect. . can say that.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Nobody is saying that Apple is solving world hunger here.

I see this as simply starting the conversation about what can be done differently.


+1

Manufacturing is such a small area of the total company. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Apple bringing more of it state side.

In the USA, Apple employees over 50,000 employees directly.

http://www.apple.com/about/job-creation/

I don't think HP, Dell, Acer, Asus, Toshiba, ect. . can say that.



Intel employs 100,000 people, I am betting a large percentage of those are in North America

Dell employs 110,000 (vs Apple's 72,800) but I would be curious as to what percentage of that is US employment.

On the other hand, HP employs 349,600 people. Even if a significant percentage of those people are overseas, I'd imagine they still employ more Americans than Apple does.

 

[rg200amp]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Nobody is saying that Apple is solving world hunger here.

I see this as simply starting the conversation about what can be done differently.


+1

Manufacturing is such a small area of the total company. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Apple bringing more of it state side.

In the USA, Apple employees over 50,000 employees directly.

http://www.apple.com/about/job-creation/

I don't think HP, Dell, Acer, Asus, Toshiba, ect. . can say that.



Intel employs 100,000 people, I am betting a large percentage of those are in North America

Dell employs 110,000 (vs Apple's 72,800) but I would be curious as to what percentage of that is US employment.

On the other hand, HP employs 349,600 people. Even if a significant percentage of those people are overseas, I'd imagine they still employ more Americans than Apple does.


I strongly disagree.

Unless you could provide some evidence, I am strongly inclined to believe non of them employ more in the USA than Apple.

The retail stores alone are a major chunk of the work force that the others just do not have.

 

[rg200amp]

Tim Cook/Apple is planning to increase Mac production is the US.

http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...omputers-in-usa

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Nobody is saying that Apple is solving world hunger here.

I see this as simply starting the conversation about what can be done differently.


+1

Manufacturing is such a small area of the total company. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Apple bringing more of it state side.

In the USA, Apple employees over 50,000 employees directly.

http://www.apple.com/about/job-creation/

I don't think HP, Dell, Acer, Asus, Toshiba, ect. . can say that.



Intel employs 100,000 people, I am betting a large percentage of those are in North America

Dell employs 110,000 (vs Apple's 72,800) but I would be curious as to what percentage of that is US employment.

On the other hand, HP employs 349,600 people. Even if a significant percentage of those people are overseas, I'd imagine they still employ more Americans than Apple does.


I strongly disagree.

Unless you could provide some evidence, I am strongly inclined to believe non of them employ more in the USA than Apple.

The retail stores alone are a major chunk of the work force that the others just do not have.


Intel is easy, the majority of their facilities are in North America.

DELL, I don't know.

But for HP, I'll see what I can find. They employ a lot of people....

Update:

Looked at HP's report. http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/media/files/hp_fy11_gcr_hp_people.pdf#HPP00.indd:HPP00

33.3% of their employees are in the US. They employ 350,000 people. That means they employ 116,550 Americans, or more than twice the number of Americans as Apple.

 

[rg200amp]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL


Intel is easy, the majority of their facilities are in North America.

DELL, I don't know.

But for HP, I'll see what I can find. They employ a lot of people....

Update:

Looked at HP's report. http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/media/files/hp_fy11_gcr_hp_people.pdf#HPP00.indd:HPP00

33.3% of their employees are in the US. They employ 350,000 people. That means they employ 116,550 Americans, or more than twice the number of Americans as Apple.


Could you quote what your looking at? From my reading it, HP is stating 33.3% of it's US workforce is Female. . .


Worldwide workforce demographics, 2007–2011 [women as a percentage of total employees]*

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL


Intel is easy, the majority of their facilities are in North America.

DELL, I don't know.

But for HP, I'll see what I can find. They employ a lot of people....

Update:

Looked at HP's report. http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/media/files/hp_fy11_gcr_hp_people.pdf#HPP00.indd:HPP00

33.3% of their employees are in the US. They employ 350,000 people. That means they employ 116,550 Americans, or more than twice the number of Americans as Apple.


Could you quote what your looking at? From my reading it, HP is stating 33.3% of it's US workforce is Female. . .


Worldwide workforce demographics, 2007–2011 [women as a percentage of total employees]*


DOH!! Missed that line! I'll keep looking.

One source I found said that they employed 68,000 Americans, but that was in 1999. I want something current.

 

[Mr Nice]

How much will the Apple employees make assembling iMacs here in the USA...

will it be more than the McDonald's folks assembling bigMacs ???


Off Topic:
I saw a black M5 on the highway a few days ago and immediately though of Overk1ll.

 

[OVERKILL]

rg200amp:

A neat article you might enjoy about this subject:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9...ly_exceeds_U.S.

Quote:
The last time that IBM made a public statement about its U.S. workforce was in congressional testimony in the fall of 2009, when it put its U.S. workforce at 105,000. It was at 121,000 at the end of 2007, and more in previous years.

At the time that IBM stopped reporting its U.S. headcount, it was beginning to appear that India was on trajectory to surpass its U.S. workforce. Crossing such a threshold is a symbolic shift more than anything else -- a globalization footnote. With a global workforce of 430,000, less than a fourth of IBM's employees are in the U.S.


Quote:
The only source today of IBM U.S. employment data is from the Alliance@IBM/CWA Local 1701, which puts the U.S. headcount today at about 92,000.

 

[rg200amp]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
rg200amp:

A neat article you might enjoy about this subject:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9...ly_exceeds_U.S.

Quote:
The last time that IBM made a public statement about its U.S. workforce was in congressional testimony in the fall of 2009, when it put its U.S. workforce at 105,000. It was at 121,000 at the end of 2007, and more in previous years.

At the time that IBM stopped reporting its U.S. headcount, it was beginning to appear that India was on trajectory to surpass its U.S. workforce. Crossing such a threshold is a symbolic shift more than anything else -- a globalization footnote. With a global workforce of 430,000, less than a fourth of IBM's employees are in the U.S.


Quote:
The only source today of IBM U.S. employment data is from the Alliance@IBM/CWA Local 1701, which puts the U.S. headcount today at about 92,000.


Definitely interesting. IBM has a lot of networking infrastructure I am assuming???

I mean, I know that they are still very relevant with business products. But with that many employees they must be pushing some major data!

 

[OVERKILL]

Agreed.

 

[PandaBear]

I was searching for US employee counts and come up with all these links you guys mentioned as well.

From my understanding, most of the blunt work of R&D are done in India now because of the near 1/2 salary of US (used to be 1/4 and then 1/3). The businesses software jobs like IBM, Dell, and HP are very easy to outsource, the tech support as well (unless you are on the corp support plan and is mission critical, you are likely to get Indian or Philippine support now). Hardware and critical software development is a bit harder, because of all the uncertainty of dealing with physical boards, silicons, manufacturing processes, yield, automation, especially those that have to deal with wireless carrier and regulations.

Take Qualcomm for example:

http://www.sandiegostop10.com/Employers.aspx

9444 San Diego employee (where their head quarter is, not including from Silicon Valley)

about 100k Indian employees (according to contractors who I work with).

also the way a lot of these large corporation outsource their job is by going through a local corporation like Satyam or Infosys, so those labors were never on IBM, HP, Dell, etc's book. It is very hard to know the true numbers.