Anyone went beyond manufacturer's recommendations?
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Originally Posted By: cathy
How far have you went (oil change) without major problems? I am planning to sell my car in the next few years so I am not concerned about durability. I have Corolla.
Me have Ranger.
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I'd go with manufacturer specs while under warranty, Toyota usually has some pretty high OCI's to begin with...
How far have you went (oil change) without major problems? I am planning to sell my car in the next few years so I am not concerned about durability. I have Corolla.
Me have Ranger.
LOL
I'd go with manufacturer specs while under warranty, Toyota usually has some pretty high OCI's to begin with...
You may be lowering your cars resale value to save a few dollars. Most buyers want to see service records (which is a very reasonable request. Seeing basic maintenance items neglected would cause me to decline making an offer
If you cut down on oil change on the next 3-4 years by half, you will save about $80-100 but that may reduce your resale value much more than that.
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
If you cut down on oil change on the next 3-4 years by half, you will save about $80-100 but that may reduce your resale value much more than that.
Cost savings are not the issue for me. In fact I am using Redline Oil and K&N filter on 2001 Ranger so any cost savings of my 10,000 mile plus OCI are negated by the expensive oil and filter. But the beauty of it is that I don't have to mess around changing oil so frequently nor having to haul the waste oil to AutoZone as frequently to dump. Am running 6000 miles on 2005 Mountaineer and may go 7000, that using Maxlife Synthetic.
If you cut down on oil change on the next 3-4 years by half, you will save about $80-100 but that may reduce your resale value much more than that.
Cost savings are not the issue for me. In fact I am using Redline Oil and K&N filter on 2001 Ranger so any cost savings of my 10,000 mile plus OCI are negated by the expensive oil and filter. But the beauty of it is that I don't have to mess around changing oil so frequently nor having to haul the waste oil to AutoZone as frequently to dump. Am running 6000 miles on 2005 Mountaineer and may go 7000, that using Maxlife Synthetic.
I know if I were to buy a used car I'd pass on the car whose owner did extended OCI's. Extended meaning going beyond the mfg recommended interval. In fact I could care less about what oil they used for the extended interval. I think most people here would agree, admitting it OTOH might be difficult though. LOL
If you go beyond the manufacturer's recommendation (unless your a BITOGer experimenting and doing UOA to track the extended drain), over time you will very likely build up sludge that will eventually damage the engine by impeding oil flow, causing rings to stick, etc.
So, you're creating a problem for the future owner by doing this...for what, saving a few bucks on an oil change twice a year? The biggest cost of owning a car is depreciation, you spend thousands every year on that...spending $25 twice a year is super cheap in comparison.
Let me ask you this: what if YOU'RE the future owner because you decide to (or must) keep this car? What if the previous owner did this to you before you got the car? What if the future is now and the neglect causes a mechanical problem that costs you $$ to fix?
You don't seem to have any issue creating this potential set of problems for a future owner...but what if they happen to you?
Changing your oil in acordance with factory recommendations can clean up some of the previous sludge (if any) and will prevent any of the above scenarios...it's really the best plan, regardless of how long you plan to keep the car...
So, you're creating a problem for the future owner by doing this...for what, saving a few bucks on an oil change twice a year? The biggest cost of owning a car is depreciation, you spend thousands every year on that...spending $25 twice a year is super cheap in comparison.
Let me ask you this: what if YOU'RE the future owner because you decide to (or must) keep this car? What if the previous owner did this to you before you got the car? What if the future is now and the neglect causes a mechanical problem that costs you $$ to fix?
You don't seem to have any issue creating this potential set of problems for a future owner...but what if they happen to you?
Changing your oil in acordance with factory recommendations can clean up some of the previous sludge (if any) and will prevent any of the above scenarios...it's really the best plan, regardless of how long you plan to keep the car...
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Originally Posted By: cathy
How far have you went (oil change) without major problems? I am planning to sell my car in the next few years so I am not concerned about durability. Its not under warranty.
If you spend ten minutes browsing the local coupons people get in the mail, I bet you can find an oil change special for under $30. If you cannot afford that 2/3 a year, or are looking to save on something like that, maybe a new car isnt the best idea?
Also why would you stop maintaining a car you plan on getting rid of in a few years ??? Thats just passing multiple issues down to the buyer. What if its some parent looking for a car for their kid to use for college every day ??
I guess this isnt any different than some of our customers. Driving Cadillac's Escalades, with a 2 mnth old and a 3 year old, 5 bags of shopping from Macy's but when you show them that their front tie rod is about to fall off, suddenly they are a bit short on money and are planning on selling the car anyways.
lol ok lady ...
How far have you went (oil change) without major problems? I am planning to sell my car in the next few years so I am not concerned about durability. Its not under warranty.
If you spend ten minutes browsing the local coupons people get in the mail, I bet you can find an oil change special for under $30. If you cannot afford that 2/3 a year, or are looking to save on something like that, maybe a new car isnt the best idea?
Also why would you stop maintaining a car you plan on getting rid of in a few years ??? Thats just passing multiple issues down to the buyer. What if its some parent looking for a car for their kid to use for college every day ??
I guess this isnt any different than some of our customers. Driving Cadillac's Escalades, with a 2 mnth old and a 3 year old, 5 bags of shopping from Macy's but when you show them that their front tie rod is about to fall off, suddenly they are a bit short on money and are planning on selling the car anyways.
lol ok lady ...
Or, as my Dad used to say,"it's the cheap man who spends the most"...
By skipping oil changes, you might save $50/year...and when the engine has problems, it will cost you thousands, in lost value, repairs, or buying a new car before you can afford it...
By skipping oil changes, you might save $50/year...and when the engine has problems, it will cost you thousands, in lost value, repairs, or buying a new car before you can afford it...
How far do you want to run the Corolla on a change and what are you willing to pay for oil?
If the car is not typically short tripped, the used oil analysis forum will show you a number of examples of oils that can go 10K with no problem in an undemanding application.
PP, PU and M1 spring immediately to mind, and there are certainly others.
Now, doing extended drains without a used oil analysis to support your decision as to drain intervals is a bit of a shot in the dark, but using the right oil will greatly reduce your risk level.
If the car is not typically short tripped, the used oil analysis forum will show you a number of examples of oils that can go 10K with no problem in an undemanding application.
PP, PU and M1 spring immediately to mind, and there are certainly others.
Now, doing extended drains without a used oil analysis to support your decision as to drain intervals is a bit of a shot in the dark, but using the right oil will greatly reduce your risk level.
I have yet to have anyone ask for maintenance records on any car I have sold whether it be a dealer, CarMax, individual
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Or, as my Dad used to say,"it's the cheap man who spends the most"...
By skipping oil changes, you might save $50/year...and when the engine has problems, it will cost you thousands, in lost value, repairs, or buying a new car before you can afford it...
Reminding many of us of the classic: "you can pay me now, or pay me later!"
But seriously, I move a few cars through the grapevine and I rarely have anyone request anything to back up maintenance history. Most people judge on apparent condition and cleanliness, then by the test drive.
Or, as my Dad used to say,"it's the cheap man who spends the most"...
By skipping oil changes, you might save $50/year...and when the engine has problems, it will cost you thousands, in lost value, repairs, or buying a new car before you can afford it...
Reminding many of us of the classic: "you can pay me now, or pay me later!"
But seriously, I move a few cars through the grapevine and I rarely have anyone request anything to back up maintenance history. Most people judge on apparent condition and cleanliness, then by the test drive.
I think 10-20% beyound the recomemded intervals might be acceptable. If you should be following a 4,000 miles severe schedual for an oil/filter chenge then 4,400-4,800 whould be a max. I do not agree with this kind of thinking but, you asked. Ed
Well. if you have a Menard's around the Purolator made Quaker State filters are regularly on sale for $1.99, and Valvoline NextGen has been roughly $20/5 quarts with a $20 rebate, which means FREE-so we're not talking a lot of money here! If you have a newer Corolla with the timing chain and VVT-i system-you'll be wanting to keep up on oil changes!
I run 1 yr 10K mi OCI on synthetics, if the next potential owner isn't happy with that they can look elsewhere...
As already mentioned, I can't remember one buyer asking for service records, which other than what's scribbled on the garage wall, are non existent...
As already mentioned, I can't remember one buyer asking for service records, which other than what's scribbled on the garage wall, are non existent...
Fortunately not everyone is a Bitog'er.
When I sold my Caprice I had to produce my service records for the first guy looking at it. Good thing I had them. I ended up selling it for my asking price as well, and I really believe it was the main't history that put it over the top. The guy commented about how many he looked at with no service history. YMMV
As a side note I sold a ton of cars with no service history. It just depends on the person. As we said in car sales, "There's an arse for every seat". LOL
As a side note I sold a ton of cars with no service history. It just depends on the person. As we said in car sales, "There's an arse for every seat". LOL
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