Anyone try this or might try it?
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My thoughts are that most of the wear particles are NON-FERROUS so a magnet provides little benefit.
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Well, you may get more than just ferrous material. You're passing a dynamic flow through a magnetic field. Every conductor is going to be effected. That is, there may be some other bonds formed that don't stop after they exit the field.
Just another gimmick.....
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Well, I wouldn't say that it's without merit. I'd probably use it if I installed a spin-on (in an available thread) remote filter on my automatic.
My thoughts are that this is a place for overkill so if the price were right I'd buy it. So it might not do much... You could say that about most of the stuff we debate here. What's it going to hurt? I'd be curious to know how it seals between block-and-magnet and magnet-and-filter. That could be a problem.
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Oh, I have no doubt that it collects stuff.
You can probably do the same thing with a simple spacer (like for a Frantz) and toss a few magnets in there for you viewing pleasure.
It would cost you more
You can probably do the same thing with a simple spacer (like for a Frantz) and toss a few magnets in there for you viewing pleasure.
I'll do it if you buy me one! Lol.
Actually, I had a stack of old hard drives from work (computer nerd) and I busted them open for the magnets. You get two large temperature resistant magnets per drive. I slap one on the end of my filter, maybe one or two on the sides if I'm feeling like a true BITOG-er. I've cut open a used filter and found a little grit around the magnet-ed areas. Been doing this for about 30k miles. I can't see this product doing much anything different. These magnets are extremely strong for their size - some of the strongest I've ever seen - so I don't know if the ones in this product would be strong enough.
Actually, I had a stack of old hard drives from work (computer nerd) and I busted them open for the magnets. You get two large temperature resistant magnets per drive. I slap one on the end of my filter, maybe one or two on the sides if I'm feeling like a true BITOG-er. I've cut open a used filter and found a little grit around the magnet-ed areas. Been doing this for about 30k miles. I can't see this product doing much anything different. These magnets are extremely strong for their size - some of the strongest I've ever seen - so I don't know if the ones in this product would be strong enough.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, you may get more than just ferrous material. You're passing a dynamic flow through a magnetic field. Every conductor is going to be effected. That is, there may be some other bonds formed that don't stop after they exit the field.
Only ferrous particles react with magnetic fields. Other electrically conductive materials react with electric fields.
Well, you may get more than just ferrous material. You're passing a dynamic flow through a magnetic field. Every conductor is going to be effected. That is, there may be some other bonds formed that don't stop after they exit the field.
Only ferrous particles react with magnetic fields. Other electrically conductive materials react with electric fields.
Greenaccord02: Next time post a pic of the filter magnets!
I would think the side magnets would give a better magnetic field to the incoming oil to catch the particles. I just wonder if the magnet setup on this unit gives it the maximum magnet surface area and field to capture the particles.
I would think the side magnets would give a better magnetic field to the incoming oil to catch the particles. I just wonder if the magnet setup on this unit gives it the maximum magnet surface area and field to capture the particles.
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Originally Posted By: Brian Barnhart
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, you may get more than just ferrous material. You're passing a dynamic flow through a magnetic field. Every conductor is going to be effected. That is, there may be some other bonds formed that don't stop after they exit the field.
Only ferrous particles react with magnetic fields. Other electrically conductive materials react with electric fields.
Oh, really?
..and what is the difference between a dynamic expanding magnetic field with stationary conductors ..and ...hmmm dynamic conductors through a stationary magnetic field????
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, you may get more than just ferrous material. You're passing a dynamic flow through a magnetic field. Every conductor is going to be effected. That is, there may be some other bonds formed that don't stop after they exit the field.
Only ferrous particles react with magnetic fields. Other electrically conductive materials react with electric fields.
Oh, really?
..and what is the difference between a dynamic expanding magnetic field with stationary conductors ..and ...hmmm dynamic conductors through a stationary magnetic field????
Yeah, I'll try to get one. I have to use the wife's photobucket account as I don't have one, not to mention a digital camera. Let me see if I can find a pic online...
Here you go. This shows placement inside the hard drive and the removed magnet. They basically all look like that. It's a magnet on a piece of steel, as you can see. They are about as long as a silver dollar is wide, if that makes sense. You have to be careful when removing them that they don't pinch your hand. They are unbelievably strong.
http://www.reuk.co.uk/Hard-Disk-Drive-Magnets-For-Wind-Turbines.htm
Here you go. This shows placement inside the hard drive and the removed magnet. They basically all look like that. It's a magnet on a piece of steel, as you can see. They are about as long as a silver dollar is wide, if that makes sense. You have to be careful when removing them that they don't pinch your hand. They are unbelievably strong.
http://www.reuk.co.uk/Hard-Disk-Drive-Magnets-For-Wind-Turbines.htm
Originally Posted By: Brian Barnhart
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, you may get more than just ferrous material. You're passing a dynamic flow through a magnetic field. Every conductor is going to be effected. That is, there may be some other bonds formed that don't stop after they exit the field.
Only ferrous particles react with magnetic fields. Other electrically conductive materials react with electric fields.
Unless you are typing via solar array, the electrons that are powering your computer were almost certainly caused by non ferrous elements passing through a magnetic field (produced by a current passing through non ferrous elements)
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, you may get more than just ferrous material. You're passing a dynamic flow through a magnetic field. Every conductor is going to be effected. That is, there may be some other bonds formed that don't stop after they exit the field.
Only ferrous particles react with magnetic fields. Other electrically conductive materials react with electric fields.
Unless you are typing via solar array, the electrons that are powering your computer were almost certainly caused by non ferrous elements passing through a magnetic field (produced by a current passing through non ferrous elements)
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Originally Posted By: Brian Barnhart
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, you may get more than just ferrous material. You're passing a dynamic flow through a magnetic field. Every conductor is going to be effected. That is, there may be some other bonds formed that don't stop after they exit the field.
Only ferrous particles react with magnetic fields. Other electrically conductive materials react with electric fields.
Unless you are typing via solar array, the electrons that are powering your computer were almost certainly caused by non ferrous elements passing through a magnetic field (produced by a current passing through non ferrous elements)
I'm a little confused here. Aren't those electrons creating Magnetic fields? rather than moving around because of the magnetic field?
Originally Posted By: Brian Barnhart
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, you may get more than just ferrous material. You're passing a dynamic flow through a magnetic field. Every conductor is going to be effected. That is, there may be some other bonds formed that don't stop after they exit the field.
Only ferrous particles react with magnetic fields. Other electrically conductive materials react with electric fields.
Unless you are typing via solar array, the electrons that are powering your computer were almost certainly caused by non ferrous elements passing through a magnetic field (produced by a current passing through non ferrous elements)
I'm a little confused here. Aren't those electrons creating Magnetic fields? rather than moving around because of the magnetic field?
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I decided to look into the hard drive magnet idea suggested here. As promised the magnet was extremely strong. I stuck it on one side near the bottom of an unused filter I have in my stash. With a small screw driver I discovered that it turns the entire filter magnetic, the outside of the can, the screw on area, and even the inside parts of the filter around the bypass valve. So I'm wondering if the magnetism could interview with the operation of the by pass valve.
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So I'm wondering if the magnetism could interview with the operation of the by pass valve.
Don't think so ... the magnetic field would have to be gigantic to affect the bypass valve IMO. Plus, the bypass valve would have to be ferrous metal to have magnetism, and not all bypass valves are ferrous metal ... some are plastic.
Just to be safe, put the magnets on the side of the can, not the dome end where the bypass valve might be.
So I'm wondering if the magnetism could interview with the operation of the by pass valve.
Don't think so ... the magnetic field would have to be gigantic to affect the bypass valve IMO. Plus, the bypass valve would have to be ferrous metal to have magnetism, and not all bypass valves are ferrous metal ... some are plastic.
Just to be safe, put the magnets on the side of the can, not the dome end where the bypass valve might be.
Originally Posted By: Brian Barnhart
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, you may get more than just ferrous material. You're passing a dynamic flow through a magnetic field. Every conductor is going to be effected. That is, there may be some other bonds formed that don't stop after they exit the field.
Only ferrous particles react with magnetic fields. Other electrically conductive materials react with electric fields.
Yes ... if there were aluminum particles in the oil they would flow right past the magnet and not be trapped. Yet, aluminum is a fantastic electrical conductor.
There's a difference between a material having magnetism and that material being able to carry/conduct electricity.
Aluminum is not effected by magnets, yet is can produce electricity if passed through a magnetic field, or it can conduct electricity very well.
All metals conduct electricity, but not all metals are magnetic (ie, attracted by a magnetic field).
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Well, you may get more than just ferrous material. You're passing a dynamic flow through a magnetic field. Every conductor is going to be effected. That is, there may be some other bonds formed that don't stop after they exit the field.
Only ferrous particles react with magnetic fields. Other electrically conductive materials react with electric fields.
Yes ... if there were aluminum particles in the oil they would flow right past the magnet and not be trapped. Yet, aluminum is a fantastic electrical conductor.
There's a difference between a material having magnetism and that material being able to carry/conduct electricity.
Aluminum is not effected by magnets, yet is can produce electricity if passed through a magnetic field, or it can conduct electricity very well.
All metals conduct electricity, but not all metals are magnetic (ie, attracted by a magnetic field).
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