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Anyone loyal to one brand of oil?
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After discovering this website, Delo 400. Before, I dabbled with M1, then got cheap and used Autozone oil, I figured all SL rated oils were the same, but after seeing the VOAs and UOAs for Delo, I'm hooked.
Best of both worlds, superior anti-wear properties and cheap!
Best of both worlds, superior anti-wear properties and cheap!
I was a die hard Valvoline fan until I started visiting the forum on Product Rebates, Sales and Promotions. Now only about half my stash is Valvoline. I have Citgo in my pickup, Pennzoil synthetic in my motorhome, and Redline in my wife's van. I even have Citgo in the generator and lawn mower. But I would happily trade all my non Valvoline oil for Valvoline.
Valvoline
Nope! Whatever I can get cheap through rebates or on sale
Goose
Goose
I'm with Goose!quote:
Originally posted by Blue_Goose:
Nope! Whatever I can get cheap through rebates or on sale
Goose
My UOAs and engines like what I'm doing (and have done).
Take care, Bill
Anything Valvoline. . .Nothing but the best.
Castrol GTX-5W/20
Right now it is Exon superflow because it is the cheapest name brand out there and is always less than $1.50 a quart. Also seems to stay cleaner longer than other oils i have used , yeah i know color isn't a good indication but i like that nice clear color...
Amsoil Series 3000.
I started with Pennzoil, then Valvoline, Castrol, back to Valvoline, onto Mobil clean, then switched to Havoline after reading BITOG.
Valvoline during break-in, Mobil 1 thereafter. Lawn mower got Briggs & Stratton 30W for break-in, now Mobil 1 10W-30.
Chevron Supreme (5w-20, 5w-30, 10w-40), I only buy oil at Schucks now because this stuff is so cheap, usually around $1 (less after rebate). Although I did find some havoline for .97 cents/quart recently. I just can't justify paying $2+ for a quart of oil unless it was a really long extended drain with a synthetic on sale.
My plan is to stick with what works for a given application:
The current list includes:
Redline products
German Castrol
Mobil 1 / EP
Pennzoil Platinum
Valvoline Maxlife
Delvac 1
Delo 400
Motorcraft /Troparctic/ Havoline
ATE Super Blue
ARX
LC20/FP60
Techron/ Valvoline Synpower injector cleaner
Zerex G-05
OEM fluids when best
But, if and when I learn there's something better...I'll consider adding or dropping products from my list.
And...I'll probably learn the new info from BITOG.
The current list includes:
Redline products
German Castrol
Mobil 1 / EP
Pennzoil Platinum
Valvoline Maxlife
Delvac 1
Delo 400
Motorcraft /Troparctic/ Havoline
ATE Super Blue
ARX
LC20/FP60
Techron/ Valvoline Synpower injector cleaner
Zerex G-05
OEM fluids when best
But, if and when I learn there's something better...I'll consider adding or dropping products from my list.
And...I'll probably learn the new info from BITOG.
M1 and PP
M1 since 1977. No worries.
Funny, when I replied to this post back in April, I was with M-1 for the ten-count. Now, after $2-$2.50/Quart price increases for M1 SuperSyn standard, they've beaten my lifetime of loyalty to the brand clean out of me.
Funny thing, you guys find all kinds of deals on dino, Pennzoil Syn, Castrol Syn, closeouts, rebates, but never, NEVER a break from the norm on M-1. Ever. Plus, in this area, you rarely see the gallons except at WalMart, and here anyway, they're the same price per Qt. as single bottles. Pep Boys pricing this week in the DC area was $6.99 for SuperSyn, and EP was $7.99/qt. As recently as April of this year, I paid $4.50 for the SuperSyn per quart.
So, between all of the above, and the evidence and writings by folks in the know here, and a bunch of reading on the subject, I finally reach the conclusion that from SL-graded oil on, it really doesn't matter anymore. Dino, Syn, the "lubricity" is the same. The only difference affecting the average car (mine)is the OCI. Long OCI (5-10K) with any kind of "real" Group IV or Group V syn, or, short OCI (3-5K) with a decent Dino. Is my revelation a correct read? If my conclusions are wrong, I'm all ears..
It's somewhat liberating, I can now pursue a good score such as the Home Depot closeout, etc., etc. For about $45.00 (including the down network score at Home Depot a couple of weeks ago where they let us walk out with a cartfull of free PP and high mileage Pennzoil), I've built, in about a week, a stash of around 70 quarts of premium oil, 40 quarts of it PP, and Pennzoil SL syn. Not to mention another 20 5W20 SM Pennzoil Yellow Bottles for .87/qt. So I'm stocked for the life of the vehicle for 10% of what I would have spent on M-1.
So much for loyalty to the brand. I wonder if I'm in a great minority regarding former M-1 customers. I know they have a powerful brand, and a great product, but you wonder if it's taking a ding lately owing to these increases?
Funny thing, you guys find all kinds of deals on dino, Pennzoil Syn, Castrol Syn, closeouts, rebates, but never, NEVER a break from the norm on M-1. Ever. Plus, in this area, you rarely see the gallons except at WalMart, and here anyway, they're the same price per Qt. as single bottles. Pep Boys pricing this week in the DC area was $6.99 for SuperSyn, and EP was $7.99/qt. As recently as April of this year, I paid $4.50 for the SuperSyn per quart.
So, between all of the above, and the evidence and writings by folks in the know here, and a bunch of reading on the subject, I finally reach the conclusion that from SL-graded oil on, it really doesn't matter anymore. Dino, Syn, the "lubricity" is the same. The only difference affecting the average car (mine)is the OCI. Long OCI (5-10K) with any kind of "real" Group IV or Group V syn, or, short OCI (3-5K) with a decent Dino. Is my revelation a correct read? If my conclusions are wrong, I'm all ears..
It's somewhat liberating, I can now pursue a good score such as the Home Depot closeout, etc., etc. For about $45.00 (including the down network score at Home Depot a couple of weeks ago where they let us walk out with a cartfull of free PP and high mileage Pennzoil), I've built, in about a week, a stash of around 70 quarts of premium oil, 40 quarts of it PP, and Pennzoil SL syn. Not to mention another 20 5W20 SM Pennzoil Yellow Bottles for .87/qt. So I'm stocked for the life of the vehicle for 10% of what I would have spent on M-1.
So much for loyalty to the brand. I wonder if I'm in a great minority regarding former M-1 customers. I know they have a powerful brand, and a great product, but you wonder if it's taking a ding lately owing to these increases?
Castrol products here. I was a Mobil 1 fan but ever since they had to comply with the new GF4 requirements something changed; the 0w40 shears down and the M1 5w30 for my pick up is flat
noisy. So I'm giving Castrol a shot - I'm not scared of the GRP III base oils that are a part of their Syntec line. The 5w20 that goes into my wifes' Miata is doing great (and quiet) and GC that goes into my Bimmer is miles ahead of M1's 0w40, in my humble opinion. I changed about a year ago - so far so good. We'll see...if Castrols Syntecs do well, I'll stay with them.
[ July 23, 2006, 08:53 AM: Message edited by: joee12 ]
[ July 23, 2006, 08:53 AM: Message edited by: joee12 ]
I was a Castrol GTX loyalist for many years, but I'm not paying almost 3 bucks a quart for dino oil. Pentosynth 5w-40 in the commuter car for longer drain intervals, Havoline (stocked up on sale) in the others.
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