Anyone get a high CAC score and go for significant lifestyle changes

For fun I did a home test after a 16 hour fast. I read that 16 hours is the preferred vs 8 to 12 when it comes to fasting test. Not that I care much, I only did a search because when I did the test I searched if 16 hour fast is too long. Answer surprised me that it is more accurate at least according to the source.
Ok, so this if funny. The ONLY reason I did the test was because I was changing the HVAC filters. One box has two filters and the second filter is a small one for outside air that is drawn into the inside box. Anyway, getting the tiny filter out is a PITA because sheet metal screws are sticking down. Anyway I cut my finger on a screw point (more like a thick needle puncture) and was bleeding... I thought to myself.
Let me test my blood sugar since I am bleeding! Made my way down the ladder, got to the kit hoping the blood didnt stop... and got a test result of 100 which was a big relief. Yes, I know not an A1C but it is a good indication for now. I was hoping to god it wasnt in the 120s or higher. I was so scared I didnt want to look *LOL* Coming off a week of Thanksgiving, even though amazingly I stuck to only a 4 hours window to eat during the day. We had two days of Thanksgiving at two locations and just last night a birthday celebration with cake in that 4 hour (mostly in this case) window.
Outside air filter in the inside right corner...

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That's good.... Next try it two hours after eating 4 Twinkies.
 
That's good.... Next try it two hours after eating 4 Twinkies.
OH I would love too! But my brain cant go that route anymore, it's been so long, sometimes still even my wife tells friends. We go through the supermarket and sometimes I will pick up a cake or box of donuts or crumb cake... and just salivate over them, then put them back down on the display and cry. Though it might be fun as a test for the Stelo.
ohhh and those squiggly line cupcakes from Hostess even though the size has been dumbed down over the decades. I dont eat any of that stuff anymore but boy is sure looks good in the supermarket *LOL*
 
OH I would love too! But my brain cant go that route anymore, it's been so long, sometimes still even my wife tells friends. We go through the supermarket and sometimes I will pick up a cake or box of donuts or crumb cake... and just salivate over them, then put them back down on the display and cry. Though it might be fun as a test for the Stelo.
ohhh and those squiggly line cupcakes from Hostess even though the size has been dumbed down over the decades. I dont eat any of that stuff anymore but boy is sure looks good in the supermarket *LOL*
If not Twinkies, then anything that contains about 75 grams of sugar will work as well. What you want to see is 140 or lower after two hours.
 
If not Twinkies, then anything that contains about 75 grams of sugar will work as well. What you want to see is 140 or lower after two hours.
I actually do pretty good on this. I just need to watch the sweet potato double secret double delayed huge spikes.

I can eat something like that sugar-wise, go 180 or whatever, even less than two hours be 110. Yet I don't eat a thing for 16 hours and 135
 
If not Twinkies, then anything that contains about 75 grams of sugar will work as well. What you want to see is 140 or lower after two hours.
Oh, I thought you were joking with me but I get what you’re saying. I think there are charts online as well.
Does corn syrup qualify as far as what you’re talking about?
Pretty easy to measure in like 16 ounces of soda, but wow 75 g is a lot!

That’s the other thing about this Stelo app
I think it has all kinds of useful information like that. I’m sure @Donald knows.
 
I actually do pretty good on this. I just need to watch the sweet potato double secret double delayed huge spikes.

I can eat something like that sugar-wise, go 180 or whatever, even less than two hours be 110. Yet I don't eat a thing for 16 hours and 135
Kinda sounds like you have a blood sugar crash after a big spike? Before it goes back to your normal?
 
I've been slumming on Marketplace for stationary bikes today. My knee is complaining all the time now about my daily hour or two long evening hikes. I also can't run on it so getting above zone 2 for very long is difficult. I'm also getting tired of walking in the rain.

That said, I don't think I will enjoy using a stationary bike very much.
 
Oh, I thought you were joking with me but I get what you’re saying. I think there are charts online as well.
Does corn syrup qualify as far as what you’re talking about?
Pretty easy to measure in like 16 ounces of soda, but wow 75 g is a lot!

That’s the other thing about this Stelo app
I think it has all kinds of useful information like that. I’m sure @Donald knows.
To do any kind of glucose tolerance test you need to eat sugar and not fructose. Corn syrup often used as a sweetener (because it's cheap) contains mostly fructose.

But fructose and alcohol have a special pathway in the liver for metabolism. You want to avoid both.

Basically eat an orange but don't drink orange juice. Too concentrated. Eat your fruits and vegetables, don't drink them.

Most fruits are OK. But avoid tropical fruits.
 
To do any kind of glucose tolerance test you need to eat sugar and not fructose. Corn syrup often used as a sweetener (because it's cheap) contains mostly fructose.

But fructose and alcohol have a special pathway in the liver for metabolism. You want to avoid both.

Basically eat an orange but don't drink orange juice. Too concentrated. Eat your fruits and vegetables, don't drink them.

Most fruits are OK. But avoid tropical fruits.
Thanks. I thought there would be something to the tolerance test with something other than sugar.

I only drink water as a rule, on occasion I might have 2/3rd of a can of coke or a glass of wine. Typically with an Italian meal.
Boating, up to 2 or 3 beers. Pretty much it. Glass of wine in the winter, bottle of beer in the summer like after I but the lawn in 95 degree humid heat *LOL*. Pretty soon Coke will be available in the sugar version for the USA. My son buys Mexico Coke because it has sugar. Just because I am typing this does not mean we are soda drinkers and I know the dangers of bread and pasta as well as pizza. If I had more 8oz a week of soda that would be never.

Always ate a lot of fruit and some vegetable with Broccoli the main one a few to more than a few days a week. I got the nutrition stuff down. However I want to take glucose to the next level and this Stelo will be a cool tool. Meaning now that the threat of pre diabetes is real I will take my healthy life style to the next level. Which many in my family think I am excessive about this but I am not. I look at it more like not giving into and my money too corporations bent on making a profit off horribly formulated foods they sell us.
YUKA app is a really cool tool too.

As you know, first time really in my life I went "off the rails" with weight gain this year, trying to do the right thing with what I knew of my cancer treatment. I dont know how I did it, I was out to lunch everyday I stepped on the scale. The weight gain though, wasnt junk food. It was WAY too much healthy food. It's still calories. Massive amount of fruits etc etc Also had to make sure my calcium intake stayed high stuff like that. All being corrected.

Now on my 6th week of fasting 20 hours a day, lost 15 pounds so far. Would have been more, it leveled out the last 7ish days, Thanksgiving and birthday stuff going on. Amazingly though weight didnt go up jsut stopped going down and this morning has started its downward trend again. I was thinking of fasting one complete day a week of no meals for 44 hours. Not sure if I can do it yet so dont want to screw up what I am doing with unrealistic goals. .
 
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I only "singled" down last year as I approach age 70 in a few months. For better or worse, I enrolled in the online Noom program for a bit of help changing my mindset. The program aims at a psychological approach to adjust your lifestyle. It's not crash dieting, it's smart dieting. It's not all or nothing. It's gentle change of lifestyle in the hopes that it sticks and stays. It works for me, but I can see it not a good fit for others.

Adjust diet. Stay active physically. Stay active mentally/socially. Be a self advocate for your health, with input from professionals. My opinion is if you "double down"/all or nothing, you have a better chance of failing and going back to old ways. Stay happy. If you make your life miserable in the search for absolutes, what's the point. The old adage "in moderation" works for me.

It's very tough not to become a curmudgeon entering the last phase of life. Everyone ignores my wisdom. :)
What do you think of Noom?

I found it too “cutesy” for my likes.

Felt like it was designed for the touchy feely side and dare I say, teenage girls.
 
What do you think of Noom?

I found it too “cutesy” for my likes.

Felt like it was designed for the touchy feely side and dare I say, teenage girls.
So I reading a book written by a cardiac surgeon "Stay Off My Operating Table". His view is if you fix metabolic health you fix a lot of other chronic conditions. He does not suggest to go on a diet (one with a name) but rather change your eating habits for the rest of your life. Low carbs, real food. Avoid seed oils. Fruit oils are much better (olive oil, avacodo oil).

And after you are metabolic healthy you don't have to be perfect. So birthday cake at a birthday party is fine. But then go back to low carbs and real food.
 
What do you think of Noom?

I found it too “cutesy” for my likes.

Felt like it was designed for the touchy feely side and dare I say, teenage girls.
I did one 6 month stint about 3 years ago as we were easing out of the covid thing, starting in November and thru the winter months (tough time for me to not munch/watch TV). It was o.k.. I just did the daily routine (study lesson, enter food eaten, exercise tracking, etc.) and did not participate in any of the chat groups (yes, very teenage social media feel, even with elderly there). The food intake tracking is not too hard and not too precise (general vs. exact). Same for the exercise tracking. I'm not one for extensive data collection/input/tracking/manipulation like some of you here that obsessively track minute vehicle data.

The daily reading lessons might be difficult for certain mindsets (the "cutesy" thing you mention). I have done professional cognitive therapy and mindfulness training, so Noom's psychological approach is nothing new and fit me well. It IS a psychological approach - it works to change your thinking pattern. Very slow and very methodical. It educates you about mis-conceptions. It was just a nudge/tool that I needed - otherwise how many of us set New Year's resolutions that fail by February when we DIY personal changes? Plus, I paid $100 for it - that was also an incentive. I have weak will power.
 
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I did one 6 month stint about 3 years ago as we were easing out of the covid thing, starting in November and thru the winter months (tough time for me to not munch/watch TV). It was o.k.. I just did the daily routine (study lesson, enter food eaten, exercise tracking, etc.) and did not participate in any of the chat groups (yes, very teenage social media feel, even with elderly there). The food intake tracking is not too hard and not too precise (general vs. exact). Same for the exercise tracking. I'm not one for extensive data collection/input/tracking/manipulation like some of you here that obsessively track minute vehicle data.

The daily reading lessons might be difficult for certain mindsets (the "cutesy" thing you mention). I have done professional cognitive therapy and mindfulness training, so Noom's psychological approach is nothing new and fit me well. It IS a psychological approach - it works to change your thinking pattern. Very slow and very methodical. It educates you about mis-conceptions. It was just a nudge/tool that I needed - otherwise how many of us set New Year's resolutions that fail by February when we DIY personal changes? Plus, I paid $100 for it - that was also an incentive. I have weak will power.

Well that sucks as I’m starting CBT for other issues LOL.
 
@Donald I put it on around 4:30 today/Wed
I guess I am looking at reality in the face, but I need to read up on it. It hasn't been that long and way too soon to know as my weight drops. Disappointed yes. What surprised me was 2 hours after dinner it dropped quite a but then started rising again and I am no longer eating.
We will see, this is only the first couple hours. Think I put it up a little too high on my arm and will go a little lower next time. Setting it up was silky smooth on my iPhone. Im glad it came a day later then expected as I had a lung/chest CT this morning and read this. Good thing was the device came later in the day. I will continue with this for a couple months, until I get to my exact BMI.

So here is my question. It's been 4 weeks since starting my fasting routine. Down 15+ pounds. I think safe to say I will be down at least 10 more by Christmas = 25 lbs less weight. I will keep on doing what I am with fasting until I loose another 25Lbs. 50 lbs in all. These are realistic numbers for me and will put me at the top range of my BMI. Im kind of hoping, I hope realistically that with this might possibly bring me a steady BG below 100.

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@Donald I put it on around 4:30 today/Wed
I guess I am looking at reality in the face, but I need to read up on it. It hasn't been that long and way too soon to know as my weight drops. Disappointed yes. Why surprised me was 2 hours after dinner it dropped quite a but then started rising again and I am not longer eating.
We will see, ths is only the first couple hours. Think I put it up a little too high on my arm and will go a little lower next time. Setting it up was silky smooth on my iPhone. Im glad it came a day later then expected as I had a lung/chest CT this morning and read this. Good thing was the device came later in the day. I will continue with this for a couple months, until I get to my exact BMI.

So here is my question. It's been 4 weeks since starting my fasting routine. Down 15+ pounds. I think safe to say I will be down at least 10 more by Christmas = 25 lbs less weight. I will keep on doing what I am with fasting until I loose another 25Lbs. 5) lbs in all. These are realistic numbers for me and will put me at the top range of my BMI. Im kind of hoping, I hope realistically that with this might possibly bring me a steady BG below 100.

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I fail to see a problem with those numbers
 
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