Anyone carry "protection" when driving?

[surfstar]

I do not live in a country where I fear going about my daily life or the police. I am amazed that I live in the same country as most of you.

I guess I have other priorities to worry about.

 

[Turk]

Originally Posted By: Astro14
Let me also add, as it is critical to this discussion, that if you carry a lethal weapon you have a duty and a responsibility to avoid conflict to the greatest extent possible. I am ready to be insulted, to be treated poorly, whatever, if that avoids a conflict in which someone is seriously hurt or killed.

Even if that person I save is a complete @$$####.


Exactly.

 

[Turk]

Originally Posted By: surfstar
I do not live in a country where I fear going about my daily life or the police. I am amazed that I live in the same country as most of you.

I guess I have other priorities to worry about.


Personally, " I " don't worry about one single thing and haven't for a few decades. Zero worries. No fear either.

I am though, prepared. Nothing more.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Bravery and stupidity run very closely and are sometimes hard to differentiate.

We are ALL CC folks here, after a robbery and a mugging our family decided to not live in fear and learn how to defend ourselves. I am well versed in hand to hand (hapkido/Taekwando) but have no desire to be getting that close to the hoodlums that run the streets.

I carry cash and the crooks know it. IMO the folks who do NOT carry are living in fear, they also are in denial of it...

 

[surfstar]

Some folks prepare for the zombie apocalypse also. Others prepare for a heart attack by taking daily lose-dose aspirin. I'm not going to "prepare" to be in a gun battle. We no longer live in the wild west. If you think you do, maybe you should relocate.



edit ^Steve as you carry cash for work (I'm guessing), I think that falls under a different discussion than someone who commutes to an office/etc and doesn't deal with that. There are crazy stories related to people who have to carry diamonds, etc for their jobs!

 

[Delta]

I have a couple 16ga double barrels ready and willing at the house, but in the car that's a no-no for me. I have a quick temper and that would not get me very far. I try and stay out of situations on the road, but you do come across something so stupid and dumb you have to honk. Luckily I live in a fairly rural area and don't come across much. Whenever I do drive in the city, traffic willing I leave a gap infront of me. If "stuff" gets ghetto, I'm getting out of there... I have an old beat up machete that's easily in reach, but in my gun toting area I live and work in, it's not gonna get me far.

 

[Smoky14]

I've lead a "manly" life and now I'm too old to take a beating from anyone. Rest assured if I'm attacked I will not try to beat you or man up, I will simply shoot you.
As you age normally comes some wisdom. YMMV

Smoky

 

[Turk]

Originally Posted By: surfstar
Some folks prepare for the zombie apocalypse also. Others prepare for a heart attack by taking daily lose-dose aspirin. I'm not going to "prepare" to be in a gun battle. We no longer live in the wild west. If you think you do, maybe you should relocate.



So, when I may have to scrape frost or snow off my car I should not carry a scrapper either?

Even in the Boy Scouts they teach kids to be prepared.

 

[expat]

I have never been in a situation where, I was even close, to feeling that I might need a weapon.
That said, I have met bone heads and a few ignorant and/or 'on the verge of loosing it' people, and have been glad that I live in a country wear I know that they are very unlikely to be carrying a firearm.

I have lived in the U.S. and did consider having a gun while I was there. But, at the time thought that having a gun at hand, for me, then, could likely get me in more trouble that if I did not have one.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
I am well versed in hand to hand (hapkido/Taekwando) but have no desire to be getting that close to the hoodlums that run the streets.



Funny you mention that. I'm well versed in the Martial Arts as well. As I get older a handgun is becoming more appealing.

 

[surfstar]

expat, you were obviously not cut out to live in 'murica. Your ability to reason is most likely the root cause.


I'm pretty sure there's a correlation between how much fear mongering news you watch daily and your propensity to carry a firearm.

I don't watch cable news, excepting for the Daily Show

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
I am well versed in hand to hand (hapkido/Taekwando) but have no desire to be getting that close to the hoodlums that run the streets.



Funny you mention that. I'm well versed in the Martial Arts as well. As I get older a handgun is becoming more appealing.


With the unreal inner city types I have seen you would be afraid to touch them without a full hazmat suit! Nope, not me.

I have stood there, completely defenseless, while hoodlums sacked my car. My daughter was robbed, it could have been much worse.

Many folks have their head in the sand, 'imagining' that you are somehow safe is not the same thing as being prepared. My CC trainer was a fantastic ex cop who really set us straight. Just as Astro14 said above, he beat it into us that we have a huge responsibility to NOT USE that gun unless absolutely needed.

I haven't seen anything I would even remotely call the Wild West, that's simple hypocrisy as usual from the libs. But when they want protection they want/use folks with GUNS to protect them!

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
I am well versed in hand to hand (hapkido/Taekwando) but have no desire to be getting that close to the hoodlums that run the streets.



Funny you mention that. I'm well versed in the Martial Arts as well. As I get older a handgun is becoming more appealing.


With the unreal inner city types I have seen you would be afraid to touch them without a full hazmat suit! Nope, not me.

I have stood there, completely defenseless, while hoodlums sacked my car. My daughter was robbed, it could have been much worse.

Many folks have their head in the sand, 'imagining' that you are somehow safe is not the same thing as being prepared. My CC trainer was a fantastic ex cop who really set us straight. Just as Astro14 said above, he beat it into us that we have a huge responsibility to NOT USE that gun unless absolutely needed.

I haven't seen anything I would even remotely call the Wild West, that's simple hypocrisy as usual from the libs. But when they want protection they want/use folks with GUNS to protect them!


We think exactly alike in this regard. Odds are the average person will go through life minding their own business and never need to fight or use a gun. But bad things happen, and burying your head in the sand won't help.

 

[Trajan]

Originally Posted By: Turk
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: KevGuy
In Canada we don't need to carry firearms everywhere we go.


Fact of the matter is, I do not live in Canada, nor do I wish to give up my freedoms by moving there!


Right. It's not a "need", it's a "right". A "natural right".

Our "natural rights" don't come from Big Bro, period.

...and the sooner people learn that, oh, wait, some never will.

If it was a natural right, it would not need to be listed in a constitution written by people.

 

[surfstar]

Odds are that obesity is a much riskier proposition. How many gun-toters could stand to loose a few pounds? Talk about penny-wise pound foolish.

 

[Astro14]

Originally Posted By: surfstar
Odds are that obesity is a much riskier proposition. How many gun-toters could stand to loose a few pounds? Talk about penny-wise pound foolish.

Ah yes, it always strengthens your argument to stereotype people and attack them personally. Misspelling a verb sure helps your position, too....builds credibility....

 

[Al]

Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Interesting; at least two responses in this thread inferring that those who carry do it out of fear.

I carry for the same reason that I buckle up. I'm not afraid of getting into an accident, nor am I afraid of protecting myself or my family if the need arises. Both are tools at my disposal for self preservation and I utilize both as appropriate.

Exactly. Truth though..I only carry when my wife is with me.
And again..not fear...its love. To each his own. I would guess that Pa. is every bit as safe as Cali. But the nice thing in Pa...There are many Responsible folks that carry. And when seconds count and the Police are minutes away..what can I say.

I suppose if I lived in Cali I would spout the lack of need to carry bc its mostly not an option.

Uh-oh..getting to the point Canadians are not even safe.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/newsalert-edmo...-171331132.html

 

[Hokiefyd]

Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
You're playing semantics. Since you opened that door I'll substitute concern for afraid..


Your original post said that you have never "been that frightened" to feel the need to carry a gun. In my opinion, being "frightened" about something and respecting something enough to give it concern are different.

I'd go along with your term of "concern". I ~am~ concerned for my safety, and that of my family. I ~am~ concerned about what some others in this world will do to others, much as you and I both are concerned about other drivers and what actions they may take.

The reason I responded is because I believe a lot of people who don't own or carry guns believe that those of us who do do so out of fear. I call it "preparation" (which is much different than "preppers", which is a whole different culture). To that end, I think "preparation" and "concern" are similar enough to be interchangeable.

 

[MolaKule]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Yes,everywhere I go.

Me too!

 

[Astro14]

I think the easiest thing to do, when faced with restrictions on your rights, is to delude yourself that those rights are unimportant, that they're no longer relevant or needed.

It's the mentality of sheep. "Nothing for me to fear, there aren't that many wolves, they won't eat me, let me focus on the lovely grass I'm eating and be content and secure in my illusion of safety".

Fortunately for the sheep, there are sheepdogs.

The sheep fear and mistrust them, because they have teeth, much like the wolves, and they look for the wolves. Unlike the wolves, though, the sheepdogs use their teeth to defend, not to prey on others. The sheepdogs know that the world isn't safe for sheep, but the sheepdogs are the only ones taking action to make it safer. Sheepdogs live without illusion.

This thread has turned into a two position argument: sheep vs. sheepdogs. The sheep don't like their illusions being questioned. They don't understand the need to take responsibility for one's own welfare. They are content to let others deal with the reality of life.