Anyone buy a new Odyssey lately?

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Originally Posted By: cashmoney
If you want to pay lowest price for a new car, especially for a car like Honda that has few variations you need to use email and phone to buy the car. Call 3 local dealers and ask them to give you their best drive out price on the new car. Specify the exact model and trim level you want. Ask them to provide written drive out quote via email within 24 hours and you will decide based on lowest price. Price should be quoted as total cost plus tax, tag and title. Accept no other type of quote as they are attempting to obfuscate and rip you off. Once you have the three quotes you can call each dealer and play one off the other and give them your counter offer and see who accepts it. Waiting until a day or two before the end of the month will also help as they want to make monthly quota.

Going into dealer and haggling is the worst and most expensive way to buy a car. The longer you sit and commit your time and attention at the dealership the worst your deal will get.


This is good advice. Although I'd say don't call, just deal over the internet with the internet sales manager or whoever the internet person is for the particular dealer (smaller dealers might not have a dedicated person just for internet business). Often the first price over the internet will be their best price, period.

Another piece of advice that makes it much easier to compare apples to apples - ask for the lowest price they can offer BEFORE incentives or TTL. Incentives and TTL will be the same regardless of dealer (actually tax will be less if the purchase price is less). What matters is how much dealers are willing to take off of sticker price prior to rebates. Also consider how much a dealer's "doc fee" is, some are less than $100 and some are near $1000.

If you contact them over the internet with exactly what you want, and they reply or call and tell you to come in, tell them to forget it. They are trying to play games with you and get you to spend hours at the dealership and pay more money. They figure once you are there you won't leave without a car.

I also agree that waiting until near the end of the month at worst doesn't hurt and at best can save several hundred dollars or more. The last two vehicles we bought were the last day of the money and we made out better because of it. The only time I wouldn't buy at the end of the month is for something like a 4th of July sale where the manufacturer has greater than normal incentives.
 
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Often the first price over the internet will be their best price, period.
That has been my experience too.
 
We bought the previous generation Odyssey back in 2009. We got what was then the EX-L RES which also had nav and paid $35k...back then! It seemed like they segmented those options for the current gen so my wife decided to go whole hog and get a Yukon XL as a replacement. Not that there was anything wrong w/ the van...
 
Thanks for the feedback everybody, especially for the odyclub.com recommendation. Some excellent info there.

I think the price I was offered initially is in the good to pretty good range. We have 5 dealers within about 20 miles of here so I'm going to work on 'em to see how much lower we can get.

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We just bought one. Was sort of an accidental thing but we just happened upon a situation where we ran into a van at an unlikely dealer due to rain we were at the beach.

What we got was a brand-new never registered 2014 Odyssey EX in obsidian blue pearl.

We got it for $1800 below the 2014 invoice price, not including the all weather floor mats, cargo tray, roof cross rails, a voucher for a brand-new free battery (we knew it was flat, the car was sitting inside, off to the side as part of a display), vouchers for free oil changes, and the trailer hitch tow package being installed at cost.

The car was never registered so the warrantee started yesterday when we sign the papers. I didn't actually look at the door tech to see which month in 2014 it was built but I do suspect that it was a late build.

We are super happy with it, everything about it is really great, though I am rather uneasy about having two giant touch screens on the car. what made me a little bit more easy about that is that I can turn them both off completely. I like also that you could turn off the electric door is just completely and the doors moved as fluid and easily as the nonexistent ones on the LX model.

The blue is a really nice color very close to the Lemans blue on my BMW.

i'm very pleased with the breaking, the acceleration, the noise level, and the fit and finish of all the materials. The automatic transmission takes a little bit of getting used to and it does exhibit some slight clunk at very slow rolling or a rolling stop but it appears that there is a TSB for it.

we have a few hundred miles on the van already just from the weekend of use, and in mixed driving with a bunch of idling but slightly over 50% highway use, The computer claims that we have averaged 27.9 miles per gallon. We will see.

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Looks great. I suspect that you'll be very happy with that powertrain. I see that the H logos on the center caps are lined up with the valve stems on the wheels. That's something I do on my own vehicles and, if this is the way it came from the dealership, you had a heads-up pre-delivery inspector (or a heads-up assembly tech in Alabama...). Many report short life from those Michelin Primacys, but we have the exact same tire (the Odyssey OEM P235/65R17) on our Acura MDX and have over 20k miles on them now, and they're at about 7/32"...so I expect an honest 50k out of them -- good for a 4,500# AWD SUV in my opinion.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Many report short life from those Michelin Primacys, but we have the exact same tire (the Odyssey OEM P235/65R17) on our Acura MDX and have over 20k miles on them now, and they're at about 7/32"...so I expect an honest 50k out of them -- good for a 4,500# AWD SUV in my opinion.


That's true. Our Michelins practically vaporized... Speaking of, I hope Honda fixed all the road noise that was in the previous gen. That was our only real complaint with the Odyssey. Our Yukon XL feels like a Bentley in comparison.
 
Originally Posted By: BrianWC
Our Yukon XL feels like a Bentley in comparison.


It will -- you're comparing a 5,500-6,000# vehicle with one weighing closer to 4,000#. Our 4,500# MDX feels like a Bentley in comparison to our 3,500# CR-V. Our CR-V feels like a Bentley in comparison to our old 2,900# Corolla. Everything's relative!
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Originally Posted By: BrianWC
Our Yukon XL feels like a Bentley in comparison.

They almost cost as much as a Bentley too! A SLT 4x4 is $69k up here!
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: BrianWC
Our Yukon XL feels like a Bentley in comparison.


It will -- you're comparing a 5,500-6,000# vehicle with one weighing closer to 4,000#. Our 4,500# MDX feels like a Bentley in comparison to our 3,500# CR-V. Our CR-V feels like a Bentley in comparison to our old 2,900# Corolla. Everything's relative!
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Nah, I just mean in road noise. My wife went from our CR-V to this as her main car. When we first test drove the Odyssey, we noticed how loud it was. But it was so good at everything else, we overlooked it.
 
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Originally Posted By: BrianWC
Our Yukon XL feels like a Bentley in comparison.

They almost cost as much as a Bentley too! A SLT 4x4 is $69k up here!


Lol that's true! I think we paid $66 for our 4wd SLT. But it's been well worth it. Had it just over a year and already racked up 33k miles.
 
And to be clear, I discouraged my wife for as long as possible from getting rid of the Odyssey. The Yukon XL barely feels like it has more room.
 
Originally Posted By: BrianWC
And to be clear, I discouraged my wife for as long as possible from getting rid of the Odyssey. The Yukon XL barely feels like it has more room.


rest your weary mind, the Odyssey has more space then the Yukon / Suburban.

The plus-sized XL doubles the cargo space behind the third row to 38.9 cubic feet of space. Overall room for the 2015 Yukon XL with the second and third rows folded increases from the Yukon's 94.7 cubic feet to the XL's 121.1 cubic feet.Jan 29, 2015

The 2015 Honda Odyssey has one of the most spacious cargo areas in its class with 38.4 cubic feet of cargo space behind the third row, 93.1 cubic feet behind the second row and 148.5 cubic feet behind the front seats.Apr 27, 2015
 
Originally Posted By: BrianWC
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: BrianWC
Our Yukon XL feels like a Bentley in comparison.


It will -- you're comparing a 5,500-6,000# vehicle with one weighing closer to 4,000#. Our 4,500# MDX feels like a Bentley in comparison to our 3,500# CR-V. Our CR-V feels like a Bentley in comparison to our old 2,900# Corolla. Everything's relative!
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Nah, I just mean in road noise.


There's a valid correlation, though. Heavier vehicles are more likely to dampen noise because:

1) There is usually more mass in the chassis and suspension to filter out vibrations and harmonics.
2) There are usually more insulating materials, heavier carpets, heavier window glass.
3) A body-on-frame vehicle like a Yukon is inherently more isolated from the road due to a bed of body bushings separating the cabin from the suspension. This is sometimes not the case with unibody vehicles.
4) Larger and heavier vehicles are more likely to have larger tires with larger sidewalls, which usually correlates to a quieter or more isolated drive.

So I wasn't referring to curb weight, but using curb weight as an indicator that, usually, the larger and heavier you go, the quieter the cabin is with less NVH, etc.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd


There's a valid correlation, though. Heavier vehicles are more likely to dampen noise because:

1) There is usually more mass in the chassis and suspension to filter out vibrations and harmonics.
2) There are usually more insulating materials, heavier carpets, heavier window glass.
3) A body-on-frame vehicle like a Yukon is inherently more isolated from the road due to a bed of body bushings separating the cabin from the suspension. This is sometimes not the case with unibody vehicles.
4) Larger and heavier vehicles are more likely to have larger tires with larger sidewalls, which usually correlates to a quieter or more isolated drive.

So I wasn't referring to curb weight, but using curb weight as an indicator that, usually, the larger and heavier you go, the quieter the cabin is with less NVH, etc.


Lol, well regardless, it's nice to have a quieter cabin on the family trips. Bad thing is, the kids are old and spoiled enough now that they could care less about the dvd players. They all play on their own iPads...
 
Ours are getting to that point, too...or at least to the point of not necessarily wanting to have their eyes glued to the DVD the whole trip. Our 2007 T&C had the factory DVD system, and the kids used it all the time. Our 2005 MDX has the factory DVD system, but it's usually off. We just took a trip to Pittsburgh this past weekend, and they did watch two movies total on it.
 
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Originally Posted By: BrianWC
And to be clear, I discouraged my wife for as long as possible from getting rid of the Odyssey. The Yukon XL barely feels like it has more room.


rest your weary mind, the Odyssey has more space then the Yukon / Suburban.

The plus-sized XL doubles the cargo space behind the third row to 38.9 cubic feet of space. Overall room for the 2015 Yukon XL with the second and third rows folded increases from the Yukon's 94.7 cubic feet to the XL's 121.1 cubic feet.Jan 29, 2015

The 2015 Honda Odyssey has one of the most spacious cargo areas in its class with 38.4 cubic feet of cargo space behind the third row, 93.1 cubic feet behind the second row and 148.5 cubic feet behind the front seats.Apr 27, 2015


We thought about suburban/Yukon XL for a while. The cargo area being longer and flatter is kind of nice...

But at the end of the day, we could buy over two Odysseys (with tax and title) for the price of a $66k Yukon. That delta also buys a lot of gas and soundproofing.

Doesn't make the trucks a bad choice, just a different value proposition.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Ours are getting to that point, too...or at least to the point of not necessarily wanting to have their eyes glued to the DVD the whole trip. Our 2007 T&C had the factory DVD system, and the kids used it all the time. Our 2005 MDX has the factory DVD system, but it's usually off. We just took a trip to Pittsburgh this past weekend, and they did watch two movies total on it.


Granted I have a toddler, I've not quite understood this. For the price of these systems, I could buy future proof tablets, which are portable and can be replaced if they failed.

For these reasons we wanted to avoid embedded systems. Maybe we will regret it in the future, but I figure out iPads will do just fine.
 
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